Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Obama's Citizenship Questions Heating Up


Be sure to look at the videos over at Repubx: Media Coverup Over Barack Obama Birth Certificate Revealed

According to Alan Keyes' Loyal To Liberty blog, there is a standing challenge to debate the Obama eligibility issue.

I am happy to read that despite great pressure to "JUST SHUT UP," Lou Dobbs of CNN is not backing off of the demand to see Obama's Certification of Live Birth.

The Canadian Sentinel: Lou Dobbs Not Backing Off Obama B.C. Demand

Hat Tips to all blog links above.

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Update:

Take a look at Leo Donofrio's latest blog post:

Natural Born Citizen: The Relevant Obama Admission

Excerpt:

With all the new media attention swirling around the issue of Obama’s eligibility to be President, I thought it might be helpful to re-release an important blog post I created back when my law suit was pending before SCOTUS. I’ve done this for two reasons.

1. The image that contains Obama’s admission of his birth status having been governed by Great Britain is being scrubbed from the web. It was highlighted originally at Obama’s own Fight The Smears website which has now vanished. The relevant admission appeared just below the Certification of Live Birth which he used to declare he was born in the US.

2. The admission by Obama that his birth status was governed by Great Britian is the one fact which the main stream media has NEVER acknowledged. In all of the coverage on the web and on radio and TV nobody will talk about it. Instead of discussing this admission openly, they mock the entire movement. It’s the new Soviet form of sarcasm. They’ve found a new way to censor people, just act like a bunch of bullies in a sandbox and pretend you are in kindergarden. Kick sand in the face of those who won’t do your bidding and threaten anybody else with sand in their face if they don’t laugh along.


And here's more:

It’s hardly a fringe concept to expect and demand that the Commander in Chief was never a citizen of another nation.

It was Obama who originally said his birth status was governed by Great Britain, not me. He said it. He proved it. Now it’s like the emperor’s new clothes. Nobody in the main stream media has the guts to discuss it openly.

I originally posted the following on December 5, 2008 – the date SCOTUS discussed my case in private conference.


‘When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “

Read that last line again.


“That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…”


That’s an admission that Great Britain “governed the status” of Barack Obama, Jr. He has chosen to highlight this on his own volition.
And this leads to the relevant question:

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN?

A natural born citizen’s status should only be governed by the United States. This is the core issue before the Supreme Court of the United States.


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Evening Update:

Cross Action News: Birther Issue Explodes

7 comments:

Christinewjc said...

FYI for readers.

The stats I receive each day here at TalkWisdom reveal an increasing amount of searches being done about the "Obama birth certificate" issue.

Here is an example of today's searches (on 7/29/09 as of 6:16 p.m. PT)


1 Month
29 July 2009
Search engine summary view:
60%
Yahoo 15
40%
Google 10


Unique visitors in the time-frame: 76
of which 25 came from links on other sites
% of visitors who came from other sites: 32.89%

One of 16 website listed: http://news.yahoo.com 10 11 1.1 2' 46'' 0 (0%)

Search engine searches:

1 Google (com) : talk wisdom 2 4 2 5' 28'' 1 (50%)


2 Yahoo (com) : where is obama's birth certificate 1 1 1 0 (0%)


3 Google (com) : kerchner v obama radio 1 1 1 1 (100%)


4 Google (ca) : ezekiel 36:26 1 2 2 15'' 0 (0%)


5 Google (com) : talkwisdom 1 1 1 0 (0%)


6 Yahoo (com) : where's the birth cirtificate petition 1 1 1 0 (0%)


7 Google (com) : "gina calvert" "south carolina" 1 1 1 0 (0%)


8 Yahoo (com) : july 2009 obama wants to hide college records 1 1 1 0 (0%)


9 Google (com) : how to talk wisdom 1 1 1 0 (0%)


10 Yahoo (com) : hr 3200 born alive 1 1 1 0 (0%)


11 Yahoo (com) : rnc obama birth certificate 1 1 1 0 (0%)


12 Yahoo (com) : did michael jackson's father allow michael to get a driver's licenses 1 1 1 0 (0%)


13 Yahoo (com) : wisdoms influence in todays world 1 1 1 0 (0%)


14 Google (uk) : katrina in arabic definition 1 1 1 0 (0%)


15 Yahoo (com) : bitrh certificate obama senate 1 1 1 0 (0%)


16 Yahoo (com) : where's the birth certificate 1 1 1 0 (0%)


17 Yahoo (com) : wisdom quote for stimuli for life 1 1 1 0 (0%)


18 Google (com) : "fox and friends" "soda tax" "july 29" 1 1 1 0 (0%)


19 Yahoo (com) : how many people regret voting for obama? 1 1 1 0 (0%)


20 Yahoo (com) : wheres birth certificate? 1 1 1 0 (0%)


21 Yahoo (com) : sarah palin holding book liberty and tyrrany 1 2 2 48' 17'' 0 (0%)


22 Yahoo (com) : hawai birth certificate of barak obama 1 1 1 0 (0%)


23 Yahoo (com) : obama's birth certificate safe in hawaii 1 1 1 0 (0%)

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These are not the live links posted here, but just a copy of what kinds of searches are bringing people to TalkWisdom.

Notice that there are 10 separate searches that specifically mention the Obama birth certificate issue.

There was another link but I didn't include it because it sounded like a p0rn site search.

There is also a search asking if people regret their vote for Obama.

People across America are waking up to the ugly truth about Obama's secrecy. Just what is he hiding?? It is costing him over a million dollars to fight all the lawsuits.

One day, the truth will come out. I pray that the truth will be exposed soon and that as a result, Obama will be removed from office right away.

GMpilot said...

"Just what is he hiding?? It is costing him over a million dollars to fight all the lawsuits."

Where did this figure come from? Is that a nice, round, easy-to-remember number that some birther pulled out of his backside, or is there a lawyer (or group of lawyers) with a receipt of one million dollars on record somewhere? Who's the firm doing all this 'fighting', and where is their receipt?

During the entire campaign, there was no evidence whatever provided by the the RNC. If there had been any, McCain would've won by default.
Therefore, the reasonable conclusion is that there wasn't any.
Don't you think the FBI, the Secret Service and other agencies would have explored the possibility? They didn't say anything, so apparently there was nothing to find...except the BIRTH CERTIFICATE everyone claims he hasn't produced (or is faked)...or the announcement of his birth in the Honolulu newspapers almost 48 years ago.
Unless, of course, one believes that much of official Hawaii, and its largest newspapers, are all involved in this.

"The stats I receive each day here at TalkWisdom reveal an increasing amount of searches being done about the "Obama birth certificate" issue."

These stats, however, reveal only that: an increasing amount of searches. There was probably a surge in searches about Michael Jackson just after his death, and your stats show him to still be a hot topic! But it only shows that the searches took place, not that everyone (or anyone) believes what's written in them.
I'm willing to bet that most searches were done only because this past week, when Lou Dobbs sounded off on it, it gained some traction in the MSM it hadn't had before. Your loathing of the mainstream media (as well as Google) is well known in these parts. Why do you embrace them now? Because they're giving this idea some mention? A great many people never heard of the Birthers before this past spring. Now it's reached a point where it threatens to drag what's left of the Republican Party into the abyss of irrelevancy.

There's also the fact that IF Obama were somehow compelled to turn over any and all documentation relating to his birth, his passport info and his college records, a precedent would be set that would permit the same thing to anyone else. For someone who claims to love freedom, that attitude seems to be incompatible with what you birthers hope to accomplish.

Why have all those lawsuits challenging Obama's legitimacy been rejected? I'd guess it's because they have no legs. It sounds as if the policy of "if you throw enough mud, eventually some of it will stick" is being followed. It ain't workin'. Queen Orly claims to be a lawyer; what credentials does she have? What law school did she attend? What papers has she published?
Philip Berg, who really is a lawyer, won't work with her any more. Personality clash? Or conspiracy versus reality?
Michael Medved describes all the 'eligibility' attorneys in words I won't repeat here.
And just how batshit crazy does a movement have to be when even Ann Coulter won't go along with it?

Sorry, Christine. Maybe you personally don't feel that way, but it seems clear to me that the sole purpose of all this is to overturn the '08 election and put a Republican president in. If the object of this travesty just happens to be a...nonwhite politician, well, that's just coincidence. Sure.

Christinewjc said...

GM -

The following article explains the controversy better than I can:

Cross Action News: Birther Issue Explodes

Excerpt:

Instead of simply opening those records and ending the debate, Obama has chosen to spend a million bucks keeping those records locked up and now, House members have decided to pass a non-binding resolution declaring Obama a “citizen” without first demanding to see the evidence necessary to prove their claim.

This is the stuff that real conspiracies are made of…. It’s not a “theory” that the Natural Born Citizen clause is a Constitutional requirement for the presidency, it’s a reality.

It’s not a theory that Obama’s records will either prove or disprove his eligibility for office, it’s a fact.

And it’s not a theory that when someone works this hard to hide something, there must be something worth hiding….

Robert Gibbs Lame Parsing of Words

Reacting once again to press corps softballs tossed up for Gibbs to hit out of the park, White House press secretary Gibbs parsed his words very carefully….

CBS News reports – “Gibbs lashed out Monday at the so-called “birthers” who believe President Obama is not a legal U.S. citizen despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.”

Notice the absence of the term “natural born citizen.” Gibbs and CBS both know that we are NOT discussing “legal US citizenship” but rather the Founder’s “natural born citizen” requirement, unique to the Oval Office. They also know that these two terms have VERY different meanings and purposes. Still, Gibbs tries to deflect the debate to one over “US citizenship,” and CBS quickly follows his lead.

Further, what Gibbs and the lamestream press agree is “overwhelming evidence” – is THREE different COLBs (certificates of live birth) presented by Team Obama, and TWO different hospitals, named by Obama as his official place of birth.


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Christinewjc said...

No mention of the sworn affidavit signed by Obama’s family in Kenya, which states that they were present at Obama’s birth in Kenya, or the fact that not a single hospital in Hawaii will confirm that Obama or his mother ever entered the door of their facility.

No mention of the fact that Obama was adopted and became a legal citizen of Indonesia in his youth. No mention that no US passport record exists for Obama, until he was given a diplomatic passport as an Illinois Senator.

What is the “overwhelming evidence” that leads Gibbs, the press and now congress to conclude that Barack Hussein Obama meets the “natural born citizen” requirement to be Commander-in-Chief?

NO such evidence has been presented, as ALL Obama birth, adoption, college and passport records remain sealed as of this writing. What evidence are they talking about? The evidence that Obama is NOT a “natural born citizen” is beyond “overwhelming.”

Gibbs stated in the press briefing, “If I had some DNA, it wouldn’t assuage those who don’t believe he was born here,” he said. “But I have news for them and for all of us: The president was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, the 50th state of the greatest country on the face of the Earth. He’s a citizen.”

What does DNA have to do with it? Would DNA prove Obama was born in Hawaii?

Obama has openly admitted to being the son of a British subject. No DNA test is needed to establish the identity of Obama’s father, is it? And DNA would not establish whether or not he was born in one of the two Hawaiian hospitals he has named as his place of birth. The DNA comment is nothing more than another cute effort to misdirect…

If the president was indeed “born in Honolulu,” just open the records. Let’s talk to his doctors and nurses and put an end to this mess. End of discussion!

He may indeed be “a citizen,” which of course has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not he is a “natural born citizen” in accordance with the purpose of the “natural born citizen” clause.

California Governor Arnold Swartzenager is a “US citizen,” but he is NOT a “natural born citizen” and cannot run for US President as a result. Unless he prints up a fake Hawaiian COLB, I suppose.

John said...

This from the National Review...a conservative publication. I'll trust their judgement over WorldNutDaily or any of your other extreme right wing lunatic-fringe sources any day of the week...

"The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his "real" birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.

If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has produced--the document is formally known as a "certificate of live birth"--bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the president's birth certificate--which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the "real" birth certificate of myth and lore. The director of Hawaii's health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obama's birth certificate is identical to that in the state's records, the so-called vault copy. Given that fact, we are loath even to engage the fanciful notion that President Obama was born elsewhere, contrary to the information on his birth certificate, but we note for the record that his mother was a native of Kansas, whose residents have been citizens of the United States for a very long time, and whose children are citizens of the United States as well."

Of course, you can't let facts get in the way of righteous, patriotic fury! If the National Review doesn't reexamine its editorial policy, we'll have to shut it down after the revolution.

Unless the rapture comes first....

Christinewjc said...

John -

I realize that replying to you is probably an exercise in futility. However, I will do it anyway for the sake of other readers.

I guess you missed this portion of the post:

‘When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “

Read that last line again.


“That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…”


That’s an admission that Great Britain “governed the status” of Barack Obama, Jr. He has chosen to highlight this on his own volition.
And this leads to the relevant question:

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN?

A natural born citizen’s status should only be governed by the United States.


And, in case you missed the valid point, here it is again:

That’s an admission that Great Britain “governed the status” of Barack Obama, Jr. He has chosen to highlight this on his own volition.

Conclusion: Even if Obama WAS born in Hawaii, it is because of the fact that his father was a Kenyan native and never naturalized to the United States that makes it impossible for Obama to be a "natural born citizen." This is precisely what the vault-length COLB would conclusively reveal. The question is, why is he hiding it?

Obama would have needed to have had TWO PARENTS AS U.S. CITIZENS to enable him to be considered a natural born citizen. Therefore, he is ineligible for POTUS according to Article II Section 1 clause five:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eleigble to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The fact that Great Britain “governed the status” of Barack Obama, Jr. was on Obama's website (before it was scrubbed) where HE ADMITTED that Britain "governed the status" of his father, Obama Sr., as well as HIS CHILDREN - which included Obama Jr. (This is a fact - unless Obama Sr. isn't the real father of Obama Jr. which is a possibility.)

But would Obama go to such lengths (and expense) to hide that his biological father was someone else?

Either way, Obama has concealed many documents and has lied to the American people. How could anyone in their right mind trust this guy??

Also, take a look at this article:

Guess how many ways to get Hawaii 'birth certificate'
Some required nothing more than assertion from an adult


P.S. As a naturalized citizen (like Schwartenegger) Obama can get a passport, be a senator and have the privileges of any other American. The ONLY THING HE CANNOT BE IS PRESIDENT since he does not qualify under the Constitution to hold that position.

Anonymous said...

The time lines, places, actions, motives, when analyzed, support, and are consistent with, what is the answer to the Obama birth puzzle:

Obama’s grandmother is his mother and his mother is his sister.

Think about it. Review all the facts and claims.