tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post2572321995543097961..comments2024-03-24T23:41:23.944-07:00Comments on Talk Wisdom: Is Herman Cain A Victim Of The Pile On? [Many Updates]Christinewjchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-35538907323082538652011-11-08T08:06:14.249-08:002011-11-08T08:06:14.249-08:00CJW: ”So, you don't think that the Romney camp...CJW: <i>”So, you don't think that the Romney campaign camp could have had anything to do with this? Why?”</i><br /> <br />I didn't say that the Romney campaign couldn't have had anything to do with Cain's present troubles. I said that one of the non-Romney candidates was more likely to be involved.<br />Why? Because Romney has been running slow and steady, like the legendary tortoise. Compared to the rest of the field, he seems almost as dull as Ron Paul. Until a month ago, he was leading all the rest of the field in the polls, and he probably will again. If this Cain affair hadn't broken, Romney could have, and still probably will, outlast his competition. Election Day is still 51 weeks away, after all.<br /><br />Republicans have always prided themselves on their practicality, but like the Democrats did almost 50 years ago, they've let their ideologues grab control. For the sake of party purity (as they see it), anyone who doesn't meet their standards must go. The Dems did it, and now it's the GOPpers' turn. All the other candidates have so far not commented publicly on Cain's situation (remembering the words of St. Reagan), but of course they all are planning to woo his supporters if he should drop out. All of the other candidates would receive a numbers boost from Cain's people, except maybe Romney; but Romney is <i>already</i> out front.<br />I don't think the Romney camp is involved because they have the least to gain by it.GMpilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07189308176043748343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-52755299634378599632011-11-08T06:32:21.296-08:002011-11-08T06:32:21.296-08:00Scrubbed article in its entirety - H/T Bridgette f...Scrubbed article in its entirety - H/T Bridgette for saving it!!!<br /><br /><i>Bridgette | November 7, 2011 at 9:39 pm | The link no longer works! That was quick. I was just reading it and went back to get the videos and photo. Maybe it was moved to a different link or else it was scrubbed. I will post it all for now.<br /><br />Cain accuser’s fiance: ‘She’s just trying to do the right thing’<br />Photo of Sharon Bialek and Mark Harwood in Venice, Italy in 2010 shortly after becoming engaged (photo courtesy of Mark Harwood)<br />2 videos<br />By Lisa Black Tribune reporter<br />4:56 p.m. CST, November 7, 2011<br /><br />The latest woman to accuse GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual harassment is “just trying to do the right thing,” according to her fiance who says he didn’t know about the allegations until just days ago.<br /><br />Mark Harwood said he is in “a bit of shock,” but stands by Sharon Bialek.<br /><br />“We’re in it together,” he said this afternoon. “My only concern is that it not become some type of media circus.”<br /><br />“It’s not an anti-political thing, It’s not a money thing,” he added. “She’s just trying to do the right thing and that takes guts.”<br /><br />Bialek and Harwood, who is from London, have lived together for four years and have shared an upscale home in Mundelein for the past two, he said. She is a stay-at-home mother to a 13-year-old son and he works in the medical equipment industry.<br /><br />“Sharon is very much one of these women with a huge heart and always trying to do the right thing,” he said. “Sometimes I have to pull the reins in.”<br /><br />Harwood said he did not know about the Cain allegation until Friday night, when Bialek told him she was going to go to New York. He said she didn’t come forward at the time of the alleged incident in 1997 because she wasn’t a Cain employee.<br /><br />“Had she been employed by him, she would have had a much stronger case and would have gone forward,” Harwood said. “She has nothing to hide. My feeling is that it takes a lot of guts.”<br /><br />According to her attorney, Gloria Allred, Bialik met Cain through her former job with the educational foundation of the National Restaurant Association in Chicago in 1996-1997.<br /><br />After leaving the foundation, Bialek worked for five years for WGN Radio in marketing and for two and a half years at CBS Radio as managing director for non-traditional revenue, Allred said.<br /><br />Allred said Bialek earlier co-hosted a cooking show on television for nine years and worked for Revlon as an account manager and for the Easter Seals Society in corporate development.<br /><br />http://www.wgnradio.com/ news/ local/ breaking/ chi-cain-accusers-fiance-shes-just-trying-to-do-the-right-thing-20111 107, 0, 194982.story?track=rss</i><br /><br /><b>Anyone smell a RAT yet????</b>Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-18689200633073511942011-11-08T06:30:42.262-08:002011-11-08T06:30:42.262-08:00Well....look at this!! Went back over to We The P...Well....look at this!! Went back over to <a href="http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/week-two-of-the-high-tech-lynching-of-cain-the-left-doubles-down-open-thread/" rel="nofollow">We The People"</a> and I have to ask, <b><i>why was the link scrubbled????</i></b><br /><br />Copy of comments containing scrubbed link:<br /><br /><i>Bridgette | November 7, 2011 at 9:25 pm | Reply According to a news article from the radio station where she worked, WGN: <br /><br />Cain accuser’s fiance: ‘She’s just trying to do the right thing’<br />(Sharon Bialek and Mark Harwood in Venice, Italy in 2010 shortly after becoming engaged – photo courtesy of Mark Harwood)<br />By Lisa Black Tribune reporter<br />4:56 p.m. CST, November 7, 2011 Snips<br /><br />The latest woman to accuse GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain of sexual harassment is “just trying to do the right thing,” according to her fiance who says he didn’t know about the allegations until just days ago. Mark Harwood said he is in “a bit of shock,” but stands by Sharon Bialek. “We’re in it together,” he said this afternoon. “My only concern is that it not become some type of media circus.” [Good luck with that Mark!]<br /><br />Bialek and Harwood, who is from London, have lived together for four years and have shared an upscale home in Mundelein [Illinois] for the past two, he said. She is a stay-at-home mother to a 13-year-old son and he works in the medical equipment industry.<br /><br />http://www.wgnradio.com/ news/ local/ breaking/ chi-cain-accusers-fiance-shes-just-trying-to-do-the-right-thing-20111 107, 0, 194982.story?track=rss</i><br /><br />con'tChristinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-87840925807346257702011-11-08T06:02:41.811-08:002011-11-08T06:02:41.811-08:00BTW, I got the term "high-tech lynching"...BTW, I got the term "high-tech lynching" from <a href="http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/week-two-of-the-high-tech-lynching-of-cain-the-left-doubles-down-open-thread/" rel="nofollow">We The People: Week Two of the High Tech Lynching of Cain: The Left Doubles Down (Open Thread)</a>.<br /><br />I apologize for not giving credit to that site previously, and will add it to the post now.Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-61027545518464618432011-11-08T05:59:10.981-08:002011-11-08T05:59:10.981-08:00GMpilot,
So, you don't think that the Romney ...GMpilot,<br /><br />So, you don't think that the Romney campaign camp could have had anything to do with this? Why?<br /><br />A staff member of Rick Perry's campaign was originally thought to be a possible culprit, but then the man whom Cain thought may have started the media firestorm appeared on Fox News (I know you probably don't watch that network) and stated emphatically that he was not behind it all. Cain later stated that he believed the man was telling the truth.<br /><br />With the appearance of leftist, Democratic supporter Gloria Allred (who never seems to see a possible false allegation she doesn't like) at the side of Bialek, my own personal suspicion antennas about these allegations have risen to believe that some Obama supporter is behind it all. Why? One reason (and it's a big one) is that the Obama campaign cannot play the race card against Cain if he were to win the Republican nomination. And with so many blacks now very dismayed about Obama's performance over the past 3 years, they could easily go into the voting booth and vote for Cain. Add on the fact that Obama has lost many independent voters; and hispanics are dismayed with the immoral public policies that Obama has put in place, then we see how desperate Obama and the far leftists would be. They would do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to get Obama re-elected! And stopping Cain through a media firestorm of sexual harrassment allegations right before the Republican primaries start is one way to push him out of the running.Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-68489600830633615292011-11-08T05:40:26.279-08:002011-11-08T05:40:26.279-08:00Thanks, Russ. I haven't been over to the othe...Thanks, Russ. I haven't been over to the other cable news shows to determine whether or not they were handling the situation fairly. The "innocent until proven guilty" type of journalism went out the window (especially for conservatves) a long time ago. Many times, the guilt alone was enough for conservative politicians to confess and resign.<br /><br />Not so for liberals. Look at how long it took Anthony Weiner to fess up! And John Edwards was a so-called "victim of tabloid rumors" until the woman he had an affair with got pregnant and it turned out to be true that she had his baby. All this while his terminally ill wife, Elizabeth, was battling cancer. And, that man <i>could</i> have won the nomination for president? Makes me ill!!!<br /><br />When Clinton was accused, there was physical evidence to back up the claim.<br /><br />I choose to believe Herman Cain until some kind of evidence against him is revealed.<br /><br />False sexual harrassment (or other types of harrassment) claims have become, unfortunately, a favorite of unscrupulous lawyers. There was a time when people thought that women would never file a false claim against someone. Then came along Tawana Brawley, the stripper who falsely accused members of a college lacrosse team, and many others. Such claims are often made either for money and/or the purpose of the politics of personal destruction.<br /><br />My husband is a former businessman, now retired. Last night he told me that he would never get into an elevator at work or during a conference with any other female employee unless there was another person present. False allegations against corporate businessmen run rampant for all sorts of reasons. One should never put themselves into a position where a "he said, she said" event could occur.<br /><br />The previous accusers refused to come forward, in person, with their allegations; even though at least one of them was released from any obligation to keep it quiet due to severance pay. Personally, I think that those charges were trumped up in order for the female accuser to get money from the Restaurant Association. The only thing that Cain admitted (so far) was that he told one woman that she was the same height as his wife, and gestured (without touching her) from her head to his chin. If that made the woman uncomfortable, she's just a weirdo!<br /><br />Russ, even though Albert Mohler and others may think that Cain "is not handling it well," I think that it is an indication that Cain is not a sleezy politician who is trying to sham the public about actual events in his past. But there always is a chance that the women involved <i>could possibly</i> be telling the truth. From my research, though, it appears to me that the Bialek story is completely fabricated. Time will reveal the truth.Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-57839632152240119562011-11-07T23:41:54.092-08:002011-11-07T23:41:54.092-08:00Who IS behind the 'high-tech lynching' of ...Who IS behind the 'high-tech lynching' of Cain (and isn't that an ironic choice of words)? George Soros? RINOs? Rahm Emmanuel (and by extension, Obama)?<br />Could it be...<i><b>SATAN??</b></i> (sorry, couldn't resist!)<br /><br />It's an old joke that if you want your past researched, run for political office--your opponents will uncover every detail of your life. Cain <i>does</i> have those two older suits against him; it's a matter of record.<br />I rather hope he blunts this one--he has enough problems without this (witness his "9-9-9" plan), and the whole thing will feed the negative stereotypes about black men...as if the past three-and-a-half years hasn't done that already in some circles. One of your blog buddies (Nice Deb) has misgivings about the accusations, and Cain's blaming the messenger (rather than dealing with the message) is only making it “exceedingly bad”. The absence of <i>Mrs.</i> Cain from Herman's side doesn't help either.<br /><br />I'm inclined to believe that one of the other non-Romneys might have a hand in this, rather than the Left. If Cain is forced to leave the race, things suddenly look much improved for certain ex-governors or a former Speaker of the House...<br /><br />Is that desperation I smell in the air?GMpilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07189308176043748343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-90050783507737029642011-11-07T22:07:20.340-08:002011-11-07T22:07:20.340-08:00Thanks, Christine.
I saw the media coverage of th...Thanks, Christine.<br /><br />I saw the media coverage of the lawyer of one Cain accuser and the statement and his interview. It was the usual CNN Breaking News approach. Like Albert Mohler (from his site), CNN reasoned Cain had not handled the scandal well, regardless of whether or not he was guilty.Dr. Russell Norman Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11505655776770812228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-8314421893151358652011-11-07T21:44:28.400-08:002011-11-07T21:44:28.400-08:00Hi Russ! How has CNN been covering the allegation...Hi Russ! How has CNN been covering the allegations against Cain?<br /><br />I think that you are justified in believing that the timing of these accusations is quite suspicious.<br /><br />I think that both liberal Democrat and RINO Republican elitists (who traditionally hate the TEA Party) could both be co-conspirators who are all responsible for this piled on lynching of Herman Cain. They all want him out of the presidential race! <br /><br />The truth always comes out and as far as this Sharon Bialek character is concerned, it is looking more and more like she is a willing (and paid) participant in an extortion plot against Mr. Cain.<br /><br />God bless you too, Russ!Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-87070214418388948912011-11-07T20:28:53.062-08:002011-11-07T20:28:53.062-08:00I do not have an educated enough opinion on the su...I do not have an educated enough opinion on the subject to be dogmatic but have seen some of the news related on CNN. <br /><br />Good information presented Christine.<br />What is always suspicious in these types of scenarios is the timing, right when Mr. Cain is a potential front runner and it benefits someone potentially running against him, Republican or Democrat, to have him out of the race. I gave you extra Google/Blogger following.:) Blessings to you and family.Bagged & Boarded or Bagged & Bored?https://www.blogger.com/profile/04448757141701167694noreply@blogger.com