tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post4941127881022296320..comments2024-03-24T23:41:23.944-07:00Comments on Talk Wisdom: Striving for Truth Against DeceptionChristinewjchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-36221231367024241822007-05-15T19:16:00.000-07:002007-05-15T19:16:00.000-07:00Hi,This is Don from Laigle's Forum.Thanks for stop...Hi,<BR/>This is Don from Laigle's Forum.<BR/>Thanks for stopping by!<BR/><BR/>I enjoyed your comment about your attempt to post a comment on a liberal web site and they wouldn't print it.<BR/><BR/>Conversely, I try desperately to get liberals to debate with me, and I am sure you do to, and there aren't many takers once they see they are dealing with the truth.<BR/><BR/>You'd think it would be obvious to everyone by now that liberals can't stand debate for the simple reason that "men love darkness because their deeds are evil" and debate shines a light on them--sort of like turning the light on in a kitchen full of cockroaches and seeing them scamper for their hiding places behind the furniture and appliances.<BR/><BR/>Yet, when dealing with the gullilble hordes, they keep going on their merry way with this transparent trick and getting away with it.<BR/><BR/>Somehow, though, a few stubborn bloggers and others are making a dent in their facade.<BR/><BR/>Great to see you again!<BR/>DonJlaiglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16925111651276694264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-64223664369650761572007-05-07T09:57:00.000-07:002007-05-07T09:57:00.000-07:00Hello feetxxxl,Welcome to Talkwisdom. So, based o...Hello feetxxxl,<BR/><BR/>Welcome to Talkwisdom. So, based on your interesting screen name, I am compelled to ask what size shoe do your actually wear? heh heh<BR/><BR/>j/k<BR/><BR/>Rocky V? Is that you?<BR/><BR/>A couple more questions.<BR/><BR/>You wrote:<BR/><I>as a christian it was first thru the study of scripture that i became convinced that the holy spirit never declared orientation a sin. to test my understanding i began attending gay churches to make a 1john1 witness. this confirmed my understanding.</I><BR/><BR/>My question.<BR/><BR/>Did you read any or all of the links provided in my original post?<BR/><BR/>If not, why not? If you did read them, then how can you square your beliefs with what is actually written in Scripture?<BR/><BR/>Contrary to popular, PC-correct belief, there is only one kind of orientation; that would be heterosexual. God made them male and female. People can behave homosexually, but their perceived orientation is a result of the desire to act upon sexual desires with the same sex. I realize that the "orientation" debate is heated and complicated. But the Bible is clear about participating in sexual acts which are forbidden in Scripture (whether they be homo or hetero).<BR/><BR/>You are entitled to believe what you want to believe. However, you are not entitled to twist Scripture to make what is clearly written as sin and abomination into something that succombs to, and celebrates your own sexual desires and proclivities. That is a secular humanistic approach and does not come from the "fruit of the spirit."<BR/><BR/>You claim that I'm not expressing the "fruit of the spirit" when I admonish those Christian believers who are preaching a skewed version of the Gospel and Bible. Would you be saying the same thing if the admonishion was being said against the sin of murder? People can come up will all kinds of excuses to murder. Look at the brainwashing going on in the Muslim world where suicide/homicide bombers think they are doing "Allah's will." <BR/><BR/>People can, and are deceived every day into believing things that are not of God or His Word, the Bible. It is prudent of each and every Christian to seek out a matter and be sure that it does not grieve the Holy Spirit of God nor go against what God has already spoken through His Word, the Bible.<BR/><BR/>I also do not think that you are correct when you alluded to the idea that most blacks consider the gay agenda a "civil rights" issue. Millions disagree. Many of them are upset that gay activists have framed their movement as similar or equal to the civil rights movement for African Americans. It is not the same thing. Their struggle was based on skin color, an unchangeable (except if you are Michael Jackson), born with, immutable characteristic whereas sexual proclivities is based on behavior. There are thousands of ex-gays who now live normal, healthy, heterosexual lives; grateful to have escaped the former lifestyle and behavior of homosexuality. <BR/><BR/>If the "gay rights" movement was only about civil rights, they would not exclude the rights of ex-gays to share their stories of conversion; be it through faith in Christ or reparative therapy through NARTH. The movement is only about changing people's minds to their perceived, "politically correct" views on this issue. Anyone who disagrees with them must be silenced. Not a good thing in my book.Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-38799399610527882092007-05-06T01:45:00.000-07:002007-05-06T01:45:00.000-07:00back in the 60"s i heard exactly the same comments...back in the 60"s i heard exactly the same comments said about martin luther king's persistant demands for equality. of course since that time, everyone has patted themselves on the back, saying to themselves, that unlike their parents, they willing gave them equal rights.<BR/><BR/>the truth is no minority group in history of this country have ever been given any rights. they have had to doggedly pursue and fight for them. <BR/><BR/> as a christian it was first thru the study of scripture that i became convinced that the holy spirit never declared orientation a sin. to test my understanding i began attending gay churches to make a 1john1 witness. this confirmed my understanding. <BR/><BR/>what i find interesting about the human condition is that it feels compelled to take the negative, until overwhelmed by the force of truth. "i withheld equality until i was forced to do otherwise." instead of taking the position of willingly giving equality, unless thru personnal experience, thru a one on one witness thru love and fellowship(not the understanding that repeats itself in ones head over and over again like a broken record) that makes it apparent that these persons are involved in something that is against the fruit of the spirit, the spirit of christ, and is of a destructive nature.<BR/><BR/> but like the civil rights movement in the sixties shows that humans in mass will never do this. in spite of some wise leaders like coretta scott king(she declared it a civil rights issue) the majority of black's embrace homoosexuals the same way they were embraced in the fifties.<BR/><BR/><BR/>in addition.......surely procreation cannot be a concern because of the willingness of gays to adopt unwanted children from heterosexual unions, surgate contributors, and all the invitro clinics.feetxxxlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09931575208523991190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-77803487040819955552007-05-05T11:27:00.000-07:002007-05-05T11:27:00.000-07:00Thanks so much Mark. It is so helpful to have bro...Thanks so much Mark. It is so helpful to have brothers and sisters in Christ who are not afraid of the powerful gay lobby in this country and are willing to speak the truth against this onslaught of gay propaganda and indoctrination.<BR/><BR/>Did you, by chance, go to the MassResistance link and read about the "Day of Defiance" event? I noticed that the gay agenda elite are apparently so powerful there in "gay-marriage" Massachusetts, that many parents are wary and afraid to speak out against the activites of GLSEN and other gay agenda organizations. Notice this portion of the report:<BR/><BR/><I>Big fear factor<BR/>To our surprise, none of the students who organized the Day of Defiance actually participated. They said were afraid of retribution by the school, particularly certain faculty members.<BR/><BR/>And most of the parents who had enthusiastically committed to protesting also chickened out at the last minute. For example, twenty parents had committed to be at Lexington (above), but only two showed up that day.<BR/><BR/>Bob Parks, former candidate for State Representative, who also ran for Chairman of the State Republican Party, went on the MassResistance radio show describing how he was going to make a speech at a high school as a Day of Defiance protester. He also agreed to send out press releases. But as the day approached, he suddenly backed out.</I><BR/><BR/>The conclusion is awesome, however:<BR/><BR/><I>Conclusions<BR/>This was quite an experience for anyone who was there. Some interesting observations worth noting:<BR/><BR/>1. Students are only hearing one side of the homosexuality argument, and that's militantly enforced in the schools. They never hear the other side, particularly the enormous health risks connected homosexual sexual practices. As we saw here, even a little crack in the dyke can cause a big stir, but someone must be willing to do it<BR/><BR/>2. A percentage of kids have been so thoroughly brainwashed that they get angry and even violent if the homosexual party line is challenged.<BR/><BR/>3. A larger percentage of kids are genuinely interested in hearing the other side, and are skeptical of what they've been told in school, but are intimidated from publicly questioning anything. <BR/><BR/>4. The biggest force behind the homosexual agenda in schools is faculty members who seem to have such an emotional stake in this issue that they are willing to lie to the students about it.<BR/><BR/>5. <B>Probably the most important</B>: If parents and students continue to be afraid to speak up, nothing will change. <BR/><BR/>The Day of Defiance was a start. YOU CAN make a difference!</I>Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-22440965613336808012007-05-05T10:43:00.000-07:002007-05-05T10:43:00.000-07:00Christine, you are indded doing the work that bear...Christine, you are indded doing the work that bears Godly fruit. You may never see it, but I assure you it is there. God Bless you!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281126424462398813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-42562285509531165512007-05-05T08:32:00.000-07:002007-05-05T08:32:00.000-07:00Speaking of learning from the mistakes of others, ...Speaking of learning from the mistakes of others, read <A HREF="http://americansfortruth.com/news/canadians-apologize-to-the-world-for-harm-caused-by-legal-homosexual-marriage-law.html" REL="nofollow">Canadians Apologize to the World for Harm Caused by Legalized Homosexual ‘Marriage’</A> at American's for Truth blogspot.Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-3328629583440931532007-05-05T08:22:00.000-07:002007-05-05T08:22:00.000-07:00Parabiodox examines the question, "How did homose...Parabiodox examines the question, <A HREF="http://recycledart.org/drupal-5.0-rc1/node/122" REL="nofollow">"How did homosexuality become acceptable?"</A>Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.com