tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post7054976881156168163..comments2024-03-24T23:41:23.944-07:00Comments on Talk Wisdom: Typical Propaganda [Update]Christinewjchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-44414228518743973772009-06-11T16:53:34.076-07:002009-06-11T16:53:34.076-07:00The wisdom of Christ. He said we shall be known by...The wisdom of Christ. He said we shall be known by our fruit. We can't really tell by what a person says whether they are really a believer or not, or to what degree. But when someone claims to be a Christian, as in Obama, or a Christian organization, as in the KKK, and then goes around trampling rights and liberties, spreading hatred, and preaching division, it's pretty easy.<br /><br />In the same way, when most liberals claim to support equal rights, but do not, claim to have supported policies which support minorities but have instead resulted in the destruction of their families and impoverishment of their lives, claim to support education yet actively keep unions in power which destroy any chance of school reform, and preach diversity yet actively work to destroy anyone who varies from their approved mind set, it really is quite easy to pick out the rotters. Oh, I know a few good people who call themselves liberals, but when it comes down to making the right choice or the party-line choice, the principles generally get shelved until it's safe to bring them out again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11769241624759010694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-12193891137486777992009-06-11T15:57:29.117-07:002009-06-11T15:57:29.117-07:00I find it amusing that you find it so easy to sepa...I find it amusing that you find it so easy to separate the "good" Christians from the "bad" Christians, but somehow when it comes to liberals they're all the same.Ken McKnightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-62138740724131024402009-06-11T14:49:54.380-07:002009-06-11T14:49:54.380-07:00Frankly, I don't see how it's possible to ...Frankly, I don't see how it's possible to associate a hatred of Jews (or any racial group for that matter) as either a "left" or "right" characteristic. It's perfectly correct to say that the KKK hated both Jews and blacks, and it called itself a Christian group. While it claimed to be in favor of "conservative" values, what it favored hardly has much in common with the modern conservative movement which favors equal rights, free speech, and maximum liberty. Like President Obama, the KKK reps put on a good speech about being Christian, but when you watch the actions, it never really did match up.<br /><br />Now, take another example which broke today, about Rev. Wright, Obama's former pastor. Despite his position as a pastor, I really don't associate him with either conservatism or traditional Christianity, but he seems to have a pretty low opinion of Jews. <br /><br />And then you go to the major examples of liberalism carried out to it's logical conclusion in Russia, China, North Korea, etc. The government gets around the problem of discrimination by crushing everyone's rights. In the US, at least up to now, the liberal democrats have been satisfied merely to keep as many people as possible poor and poorly educated, but they are moving fast to expand as much as possible.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11769241624759010694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-54772755732935798072009-06-11T09:30:15.945-07:002009-06-11T09:30:15.945-07:00Ken,
The fact of the matter is, the liberal left ...Ken,<br /><br />The fact of the matter is, the liberal left Lamestream media is going to continue to try and blame the "one lone gunman" on "right-wing extremists." The only place where "fair and balanced" reporting will be on the blogs.<br /><br /><a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/cnn-commentator-equates-bush-hating.html" rel="nofollow">Here's another example.</a><br /><br />It would be nice if the hatred and attacks would stop on both sides. That is what Glenn Beck tried to do with the 9.12 Project and TEA Parties. We were protesting THE GOVERNMENT'S TERRIBLE POLICIES, ATROCIOUS SPENDING, AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIONS! All types of Americans showed up to protest against both democrats and republicans in Congress. We gathered as fellow Americans - concerned about our Charters of Freedom and especially, the Constitution of the United States.<br /><br />In my experience, the far left can never get along with, nor make peace, with those they have targeted to hate. <br /><br />The moderates and blue-dog democrats apparently can - and did just that at the TEA parties.<br /><br />God save our Nation and the United States Constitution!Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-62994051824838524142009-06-11T09:13:59.634-07:002009-06-11T09:13:59.634-07:00So this is how it works: Any evidence that he is ...So this is how it works: Any evidence that he is liberal means that he is a typical leftist extremist who represents everyone on the left, but any evidence he is right-wing means he is "a lone gunman nutjob." Yes, that's completely fair and balanced.Ken McKnightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-35571770534548090112009-06-11T08:16:28.653-07:002009-06-11T08:16:28.653-07:00This from CNN:
"Von Brunn's Web site proc...This from CNN:<br />"Von Brunn's Web site proclaims itself "a new, hard-hitting expose of the Jew conspiracy to destroy the white gene-pool." Postings attributed to von Brunn have appeared on numerous other sites, including ones that call the Holocaust and "The Diary of Anne Frank" hoaxes and bemoan the decline of the "Aryan gene pool." <br /><br />"Bit by bit Liberalism ascended. Bit by bit the Constitution was re-interpreted. Bit by bit government institutions and Congressmen fell into JEW hands -- then U.S. diplomacy, businesses, resources and manpower came under JEW control," one such message reads. "Whitemen sat on their collective asses and did NOTHING -- NOTHING BUT TALK."<br /><br />That doesn'r sound like a "liberal leftist" to me. Sounds like another far right wing loon. And I sure don't know where you get your information...well maybe I do...but this comment:<br />"I could be incorrect about this, but it has been my experience that Holocaust deniers and Jew haters are typically left-wing (anti-Bible/God/Jesus) extremists. But you won't hear that from the Lamestream media." is just off-the-charts ignorance.<br />Are those friendly David Duke KKK people, which is pretty close to where this guy comes from, even according to his ex wife,"typically left-wing (anti-Bible/God/Jesus) extremists."?<br /><br />C'mon lady. You need to admit when you are wrong.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-91316948258068040572009-06-10T22:43:02.840-07:002009-06-10T22:43:02.840-07:00And your opinion on the topic isn't "spec...And your opinion on the topic isn't "speculative?"<br /><br />C'mon Ken. You need to admit when you are wrong.<br /><br />Here's another update that tells us that von Brunn sounds more like your kind of liberal leftist people who hate Bush:<br /><br /><a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/crazed-holocaust-museum-killer-hates.html" rel="nofollow">Crazed Holocaust Museum Killer... Hates Bush, McCain, Neocons</a>Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-87505294325157785802009-06-10T22:28:07.999-07:002009-06-10T22:28:07.999-07:00I saw the update and it is, if you didn't noti...I saw the update and it is, if you didn't notice, entirely speculative: "there are reports. . ." You and this twit cited above seem to think that anti-Semitism and criticism of Israel are somehow the same. It's true that there are factions on the Left that criticize Israel's right to exist. They do not--in general--hate Jewish people. The classic anti-Semites are groups like the KKK, who are explicitly and vociferously Christian and right-wing.<br /><br />In any case, you completely dodged the comment about the shooter's agreement with you and your frothing compatriots who question Obama's bona fides. Are those people typically of the Right or the Left?Ken McKnightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-45427597552532791382009-06-10T21:36:42.399-07:002009-06-10T21:36:42.399-07:00Ken,
About your first comment. You are correct. ...Ken,<br /><br />About your first comment. You are correct. If people were completely honest, they would realize that they could never pass "The Good Test." <br /><br />Jesus Christ did, however. He is our Savior, Lord and King - the sinless Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.<br /><br />Just because you don't happen to believe in him - doesn't mean that he did not accomplish the goal of redemption, salvation and forgiveness of sin for repentant believers.<br /><br />The fact that we are all sinners in need of the Savior negates your "observation" that would argue for the killing of babies in the womb. It is a non sequitur - a type of logical fallacy.<br /><br />The truth is, as sinners - we all deserve to die. That is the penalty for sin. However, in God's mercy, he sent His Son - to be the propitiation for our sins. His shed blood on the cross and sacrificial death bridged the gap between Holy God and sinful man. Christ's resurrection from the dead (a fact of history) proved that he is who he said he is in Scripture - the Savior of the world.<br /><br />Of course, as you have stated - this is meaningless to you - personally. That's truly a shame and unfortunate for you. One day, you will meet God with your sins on your soul at The Great White Throne Judgment. Your rejection of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior will eternally separate you from God.<br /><br />Regarding your second comment.<br /><br />I guess you didn't see the following update on the main Talk Wisdom post page:<br /><br />Update: It appears that I was right about the shooter being a left-wing Nazi type hater:<br /><br /><a href="http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/Liberals-Holocaust-Shooting-Right-Wing-Hate.aspx" rel="nofollow">RepubX: Liberals: Holocaust Shooting Right Wing Hate</a><br /><br />Excerpt:<br /><strong>Something doesn't seem right here, pardon the pun. The instantaneous, collective kneejerk from liberal pundits to blame the Holocaust Museum shooting on "right wing hate" stinks. It's as if this is a preemptive strike to cover something that may soon be revealed about them…<br /><br />Quote: <i>I don't think you can deny that there is a rising climate of right wing hate, a lot of it directed at Obama. You and I go way back to the beginning of the campaign and the level of craziness. He's a secret Muslim. He hates America. He wasn't born here. Now this guy, Von Brunn, he's, he, he was one of the birthers. He didn't believe in Obama's birth certificate and he was constantly online agitating about that.<br />— Joan Walsh, Salon.com, on Hardball</i><br /><br />No wonder Walsh works for Salon. There are reports that Von Brunn was a liberal "9/11 Truther" who hated "neocons", Bush and McCain specifically. Inconvenient truth, and I won't waste a "bonehead" on her.</strong><br /><br />And, these final points reveal the absolute hypocrisy of the leftist extremist propaganda and lies being told:<br /><br /><strong>Go to the liberal blogs and see who holds the title on death wishes for their political and ideological opponents.<br /><br />And it would seem to me that if you were to add up the numbers, you would probably find the majority of vocal, public anti-semitism on college campuses, and we all know who runs them….<br /><br />From blackandright.com </strong><br /><br />Yep....Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-63842642752045328902009-06-10T21:12:26.646-07:002009-06-10T21:12:26.646-07:00From the Washington Post story about the Holocaust...From the Washington Post story about the Holocaust Museum shooter: "He also appears to be the author of a recent Internet posting suggesting that President Obama's background is being hidden from the public." Birds of a feather. . .Ken McKnightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-32191020061980556732009-06-10T21:06:05.073-07:002009-06-10T21:06:05.073-07:00I took it, but I don't believe in God or Heave...I took it, but I don't believe in God or Heaven so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get out of it. I don't see what it has to do with my comment (which was not an argument, by the way, but merely an observation). Is what I said not true? My only point was that if you say an aborted fetus could have grown to be a great genius, it is equally likely that it could have been a sociopath, and by destroying it you may have inadvertently saved hundreds or thousands of other lives. Is that not a fair statement? <br /><br />As I understand it, from your point of view no human being could pass "The Good Test." Am I right?Ken McKnightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-72702105020082877602009-06-10T19:22:43.585-07:002009-06-10T19:22:43.585-07:00Ken,
Please take "The Good Test."
If...Ken,<br /><br />Please take <a href="http://www.livingwaters.com/good/001.shtml" rel="nofollow">"The Good Test."</a> <br /><br />If you pass it, then your comment can stand. <br /><br />If not, then come back and confess to readers here why you now realize that your comment is not a feasible argument.Christinewjchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18434229284833642438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12391603.post-70539756891310829552009-06-10T14:56:04.986-07:002009-06-10T14:56:04.986-07:00The aborted fetus could just as easily have been A...The aborted fetus could just as easily have been Adolf Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, John Wayne Gacy or any number of other monsters.Ken McKnightnoreply@blogger.com