However, those who are cheering his victory want those of us who voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin to just drop these important questions, concerns, and issues, and rally around the Obamanation symbol singing kum ba yah - right along with Oprah and Colin Powell.
Not gonna happen.
Whenever I have posted details about Obama that I cannot totally verify, I label the post: "Talk Wisdom reports, you decide." If I recall correctly, I think that the first time I used that talking points label was when the Larry Sinclair allegations came out. Since then, I have used it whenever an article or blog post could possibly be just a rumor.
I STILL think that the COLB debacle is not over. There is supposed to be a hearing on December 1st.
[Correction: Will Supreme Court have say in presidency?
Schedule includes campaign response to questions on Obama birthplace
Excerpt:
In a statement today, Berg said he was told by a clerk for Souter that his application for an injunction to stay the election was denied. But he also said the defendants "are required to respond to the Writ of Certiorari" by Dec. 1.]
Will there be a "December surprise?"
I have read that if this issue is not resolved before Obama/Biden are sworn into office, the possibility of removal from office might be severely diminished. No doubt. However, I wonder what would happen if it is found out that Obama doesn't, after all, have natural born citizenship status?
In my conversations with Obama supporters in other posts, both here at this blog and other blogs, I have yet to hear anyone say that Obama's original vault long COLB has been seen by the public. Some have claimed that it has, but then end up having to back down because they were referring to the faked BC that was passed off as legitimate.
If Obama's original vault COLB is available and genuine - and proves that he was born in Hawaii on the date in question, then why all the secrecy?
No one has been able to answer that one question...no one!
Just for the sake of argument, I will post a link to this photo essay of Barack's family tree from Time.com.
Perhaps the photo essay is 100% correct and accurate. But maybe it's not. There may be many details absent from this depiction of his family tree.
So far, it has been suspected, and rumored, that Obama's true father was either Frank Marshall Davis; or, perhaps, the secret son of Malcolm X.
Maybe the title of one of Obama's books should have been, "Dreams of My Fathers." Sorry...couldn't resist a little levity there.
The "morphed" photo at that site link above is really kinda creepy.
Now, before Spud Tooley comes over here and bursts a blood vessel reading this post, I am adding an additional label for this post: Please debunk this!
My Obamabot friends who frequent this blog always accuse me of spreading rumors and falsehoods about the man.
Fine.
Then please get busy and debunk this.
There are lots of comments at the "Malcolm X/Obama ties" blog article. Here are just a few of the many for/against arguments there:
Comment by Paul I. Adams on November 3, 2008 at 4:48pm
Reuven, While "fantastic to preposterous in nature", I have absorbed the written material, listened to Malcolm's speech in its entirety, pursued additional web searching and now slept on it. First I forwarded this to MANY! I find the narrative compelling, plausible, and too perfect a fit to ignore! with Ayer's ghostwriting of his revolutionary friends' son, it seems unmistakable that he would do all he has to "keep a promise to Malcolm." Obama's use of the the word "Audacity" (of Hope) seems clearly a "pointer" after hearing Malcolm's use of the word in his speech. Most blatant of all is the "process of the ballot", control of the caucuses for the primaries certainly follows the heart of the speech itself! As you so clearly point out the incredible list of donors-time and money-that served the meteoric rise of this virtual unknown is too precise in its alignment to be coincidence. I am more convinced than ever that my comment on the Berg article is an accurate depiction of this entire situation. It takes brass to make this stand you have taken. All the best.
Comment by robespierre on November 3, 2008 at 10:32pm
I am insulted that this article passes as news on this site.
I normally enjoy your articles but this is pure speculation presented as fact.
You can't use "they look alike" as evidence. and "they both use the word audacity" from Paul I Adams, certainly is not a reasonable argument.
I feel like I entered the Twilight Zone. We will never win this fight with these outrageous unfounded claims. because no one is buying it.
Comment by radiantstreams on November 4, 2008 at 8:18am
There are a lot of "ifs" in this article, as in mere speculation. Nothing is presented as pure fact. In speculating, this would answer a lot of the questions so many have had concerning this very questionable entity. If he would just be honest, answer the charges instead of hiding everything, we would have nothing to speculate about. He has fueled this himself. And there are just so many oddities! Enquiring minds wanna know!
Comment by Cynthia on November 4, 2008 at 6:36pm
While I'd be the last person to endorse a conspiracy theory, Obama's campaign has been a campaign of deceit. From his shady associations, his habitual flip-flop regarding important issues, to the state of Hawaii's refusal to make public his birth certificate, valid questions remain regarding his identity and his intentions. Comment by couragehonorvalor 1 day ago
Cynthia,
I agree wholeheartedly on all points...
chv
Last but not least, here are two comments to save Spud Tooley some time from having to type one out:
Comment by Ross 7 hours ago
Wow, this is hysterical!
Who writes your material? This could be a comedy sensation if someone brought this zaniness to the big screen. Comment by Ross 7 hours ago
If true, this would be devastating.
Then again, if blue aliens from Repblasticon 5 invade with their Skeerum Ray weapons and Helium Bombs, we'd be in serious trouble also. Both being about the same probability.
Pure bunkum.
Even though the "morphed" picture of Obama/Malcolm X was creepy enough, there are also several "quite a resemblance" photo comparisons here.
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OK. Enough of that.
My second concern came from an article that I had previously read a few days before the election. I have to confess that I wanted to believe it was bunk (and maybe it is just propaganda) so that I would not have another reason to be fearful for our country!
Admittedly, this may be old news for some. It is dated October 25, 2008. However, I discovered it just two days before election day.
Again, Talk Wisdom reports - you decide. And - please debunk this! (Additional note: notice that it is highly critical of the Bush Administration - going so far as to call our current government "fascist." That should delight all the nut roots who believe such trash. Maybe that means the entire article is a bunch of bunk, too?)
Quote:
October 25, 2008
Iranian Leader In Secret Meet With Obama At US Military Stronghold In Hawaii
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers (Traducción al Español abajo)
Russian Military Intelligence reports to Prime Minister Putin today are stating that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has joined US Senator Barack Obama in Hawaii at an emergency conference ordered by America’s Top Generals in their effort to avert World War III and the collapse of the United States by the fascist forces within its own government it is currently battling.
As we had reported earlier in our October 23rd report “Obama Summoned To US Military Stronghold In Hawaii By Top Generals”, the presumed next President of United States is currently incommunicado in Hawaii under the cover of his grandmother being ill. President Ahmadinejad is, likewise, incommunicado under the cover of ‘failing health’ as he has suddenly cancelled all personal appearances.
According to these reports, the initial meeting between Obama and Ahmadinejad, and their Top Military Officers, was ‘tense’ but appeared to be beating back the planed fascist coup in the United States with the Iranian condition of being recognized by the US being met with the White House announcing last evening the resumption of diplomatic ties, and as we can read as reported by the Seattle Times News Service:
“The Bush administration will announce in mid-November, after the presidential election, that it intends to establish the first U.S. diplomatic presence in Iran since the 1979-81 hostage crisis, according to senior Bush administration officials.”
The American anti-fascist forces now headed by Senator Obama also appear to have had their main first condition met that President Ahmadinejad will step aside and not run for another term of office, which he appears to have agreed to, and as we can read as reported by the JTA News Service:
“A series of cancelled appearances have led to speculation that the Iranian president's health is failing. The situation may force Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to drop out of elections scheduled for 2009, according to a report on the Iranian Web site Shahab.”
American fascist forces, however, were quick to strike back against these moves against them by first ordering a US media blackout on the resumption of diplomatic ties with Iran released by White House stationed US Military Officers (which, thankfully, the Seattle Times News Service has refused to agree to) and then swiftly imposing sanctions on Russia and China for their support of Iran, and to which Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov blasted as being ‘inadmissible’.
Driving these desperate actions by Americas Top Generals are how close they are to seeing their Nation destroyed upon the alter of what the United States fascist forces call their ‘New World Order’, and which they stand virtually alone against not only their political elite but also several of their own intelligence agencies, and as we had previously reported on in our October 20th report “Israel To Fall As US Says This Will Be Their ‘Last President’”.
Also, and as we had reported on in our October 22nd report “Top US Generals Flee To EU And Russia In Last Attempt To Stop World War”, both Russian and European Special Forces units are continuing their attacks against these fascist forces planned nuclear attacks upon Europe’s main cities by the destruction of their core base in Austria and the downing of an Italian Military helicopter yesterday over France believed to be carrying a number of suitcase-type nuclear weapons.
The BBC is also reporting that British nuclear and biological warfare forces are continuing to be deployed around their Nation too.
It is also important to note, these reports continue, that Iran’s Supreme Leader is supporting these ongoing negotiations but has also issued a more serious warning should they not be successful, and as we can read as reported by the JTA News Service:
“Iran will target Israel if there is a U.S. attack on the Islamic state’s nuclear facilities, a senior Iranian official said. Dr. Seyed Safavi, an adviser to supreme leader Ali Khamenei, revealed the change in policy to foreign diplomats two weeks ago in London, according to a report Wednesday in the Israeli daily Ha'aretz.”
Most surprising, however, of all of these events is the near complete denial of the American people to this titanic struggle taking place in their very midst, and upon which their lives and future depends. This is brought into even more stark relief as this is the second coup attempt they have faced in the past 75 years, and which, coincidentally, also took place during a time of great economic turmoil, and as we can read:
“The Business Plot (also the Plot Against FDR and the White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933 wherein wealthy businessmen and corporations plotted a coup d’état to overthrow United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In 1934, the Business Plot was publicly revealed by retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler testifying to the McCormack-Dickstein Congressional Committee. [1] In his testimony, Butler claimed that a group of men had approached him as part of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt in a military coup. One of the alleged plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their final report, the Congressional committee supported Butler's allegations of the existence of the plot, but no prosecutions or further investigations followed, and the matter was mostly forgotten.”
As our mission is to present to these American people the true news of the events now occurring, and that will plunge them into a chaos they have never seen the likes of, they can rest assured that this time around this struggle against them will not be forgotten, at least by us.
© October 25, 2008 EU and US all rights reserved.
[Ed. Note: The United States government actively seeks to find, and silence, any and all opinions about the United States except those coming from authorized government and/or affiliated sources, of which we are not one. No interviews are granted and very little personal information is given about our contributors, or their sources, to protect their safety.] /quote
Translation to Spanish by: Sister Maru Barraza, Mazatlán, Mexico
Also posted here: Four Winds10.com
Just propaganda against the U.S.A.? I hope so!
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One last thing.
Perhaps I missed the announcement in the news, but does anyone else out there think it a bit strange that Obama didn't return to Hawaii for his grandmother's funeral/memorial service?
Update 11/7/08 - Regarding my question about whether or not Obama will attend his grandma's funeral, these are the few posts that I could find on the subject:
Why Isn't Obama Going or Taking His Family to Grandmother's Funeral?
Some comments there:
To: vidbizz
He didn’t even mention her in the acceptance speech & she had just died the nite before!
Yep, real class has arrived at the WH. too bad it's all LOW.
49 posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:10:20 AM by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
To: dennisw
Also, I found it odd that a man who just made history showed no emotion during his victory speech. Didn’t shed a tear. Read a prepared speech from the teleprompter right up until the end. People in the crowds showed more emotion than he did. It seems to me that someone who supposedly achieved such a milstone would be be able to speak a few words from the heart.
48 posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:10:14 AM by jersey117
Is Obama attending his grandmother's funeral?
Yep....
Hat tips to all the links above - too many to list right now.
Two more issues that bother me:
ReplyDelete1. And one question is: Did Obama “buy” the election?
Answer: YES!!
2. The 2008 election has been decided and one thing is clear: the enemies of talk radio are firmly in control of the White House and Congress. Sen. Chuck Schumer and his fellow Democrats are promising an all-out attack on talk radio.
ReplyDeleteWith a new "Fairness Doctrine" backed by an Obama White House, political talk, as we know it, will end.
If these forces of darkness win, Rush, Imus, Hannity, Savage, Beck, and dozens of other major hosts will be muzzled by using federal regulations to control political talk.
Speaking of creepy...
ReplyDeleteHere's an eerie photograph that was originally posted over at the MSNBC website, but has now been taken down. You will know why when you view it:
Eerie Obama Photo At MSNBC.COM Taken Down
Note the Bible verse that a writer over at Digg quoted in his comment:
deathsythe
4 hr 12 min ago Dugg by friends: DCMacHead, Junebug75
When Satan comes to earth in a visible body he will be glorious, impressive, attractive and charismatic.
People will recognize that he is stronger and more majestic than a mere human being. People will be convinced by their senses that Satan is God. The book of Revelation calls him the beast.
The beast will speak in a melodious voice and he will have friendly, loving eyes. He will be gentle and kind. His appearance will dazzle and charm people. He will be extremely powerful.
People will believe that the beast is God. They will be entranced and drawn to him. They will have an almost irresistible desire to worship the beast.
“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven
heads and ten horns...One of he heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast” (Revelation 13:3).
Not suggesting anything, but I'm just saying.
whoa....
I am sick of being told we need to come together. I remember back in 2000, no one calling for people to come together for W. The truth is Obama doesn't share my core moral beliefs, so why should I support him. Why shouldn't I question his intentions based on who he has associated with and his questionable pass. These things matter more today because he won.
ReplyDeleteI hear ya Clay Bowler! So much surrounding Obama is very disturbing.
ReplyDeleteI heard that BO had his first security briefing with President Bush. Makes me ill - considering that the controversy over his vault long COLB hasn't been resolved yet. Plus, the electors haven't even officially filed results for election yet. This will be done Dec. 15th. Meanwhile, Obama is getting access to U.S. intelligence secrets.
I think that Bush has jumped the gun on this because of the "catching up" he had to do after the 2000 election fiasco.
I wonder. How many Republicans just assume that Obama is a natural born citizen? He could become Senator as a "naturalized citizen," but would not be eligible under the Constitution to be POTUS if he is not a natural born citizen. Recall how Arnold S. wanted an amendment so he could run for president. (As governor - he has been a disasterous RINO - so I'm glad he can't be president!) But I'm drifting from the topic at hand.
I am not the only McCain supporter who is concerned about Obama. I'm not the only one who is questioning Obama's eligibility.
Found some good comments from others who share my concerns about all of this over at Digg:
4 Replies — best has 7 diggs
+5 diggs +9 / -4 aaarghonaut
on 11/05/2008 Dugg by friends: brad3378, USNavyBlue
(my apologies- my righteous-indignation ran away with me)
Reply+7 diggs +9 / -2 ccso8462
on 11/05/2008 Dugg by friends: USNavyBlue
Right with you.
Reply-6 diggs +5 / -11 youliveinfear
on 11/05/2008 Below viewing threshold. Show
haha @ internet tough guys.
Reply+1 digg +2 / -1 IkeWarrior
on 11/06/2008 @ aaargh - You got it, amigo.
@ fear - Don't presume your 14 y.o. keyboard ninja buddies of the daily kos are the only model available. Some of what is said is venting, some of it actually rather muted . . . and backed by time spent in places you'd not want to go. The latter group don't take kindly to ayers and his ilk using our flag to wipe his feet, although I'd not expect such as thee to have the faintest idea about such things.
ReplyReply to this thread +7 diggs +20 / -13 RSandman
on 11/05/2008 Dugg by friends: brad3378, MadSquirrel, USNavyBlue
So many seem to be intentionally closing their eyes and attempting to redirect the discussion to attack the messenger. How typical.
Non-issue? Are they kidding?
How much more of a key issue could it be, with absolutely NO birth certificate ever produced, not even in his Illinois filings. He has always relied on the after-birth clerk filing of the COLB, which proves nothing except that at some point later they showed up with a live baby. Barack can thank, well, something, that his mother was not as rabidly pro-abortion as he is..
Wake up.
Although I would agree with those that note there are MANY other issues with Obama that have "actual bearing."
For instance; his Marxist roots, his claiming full credit for the memoir he didn't write alone, his socialist economic ideology, his support for infanticide if the baby was meant to have been aborted, his deep support for homosexuals, lesbians, transgendereds, bisexuals like his mother, and a host of others who have demanded special rights based on their particular sexual perversions.
Then there are the blatant coverups of everything in his past that doesn't appear in 'his' book, like the sealed hospital records in Kenya where his mother went for [pre] natal treatment and his birth after she was turned back at the airport, the sealed records having anything to do with him in Hawaii, the sealed scholarship applications and records from every university he has attended, the sealed legal briefs and sealed records of all interactions he had with a half-dozen socialist and community activist groups in Chicago...the one thing he is not now and never intends to be, is "honest" with the American people.
His handlers, maybe. The public? never
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cashman57
on 11/05/2008 Dugg by friends: brad3378, USNavyBlue
Each and every one of us has standing. The founders set it up that way in our very first Amendment to the Consttitution. Mr Berg and I have the right to petition the government for redress of grievances. Clearly there is a grievance when the very qualification for presidency is in question.
If 0bama were born in Hawaii, why are his birth records sealed in Kenya? If 0bama were born in Hawaii whay was there no bill generated from any hospital, clinic, doctor, or midwife.
He sealed his birth records so we could not discover he was born in Kenya but billing records are not sealed and his was a very magical birth with no witnesses or bills if it occurred in Hawaii.
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Dimensio
on 11/05/2008 "I do find it funny that it was "sealed" and he never tried to show it other than that photoshop'ed render."
Reports that Senator Obama's birth certificate was "sealed" are a misnomer; it was based upon the fact that his certificate will not be released to anyone except to Senator Obama or to family members within a specified range. This is standard practice of the Hawaii Department of Health for any birth certificate, thus Senator Obama's certificate is more "sealed" than the certificate of any other individual born within the state.
Please substantiate your assertion of a "photoshop'ed render".
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newinnewark
on 11/05/2008 Dugg by friends: jfm777
So in other words Constitutional requirements no longer count? Is it that the end justifies the means? I bet that if this question involved a conservative the commies would be screaming their pin heads off.
What is it about Mr. Berg being a former Deputy Attorney General for the state of Penn. and a lifelong democrat that escapes the intellectual elite?? Is that when a democrat questions one of their own then they immediatley become a "kook"? Have you taken the time to read the lawsuit filed by Mr. Berg?? Do you really understand what is being asked and why?? Does the possibility of the Messiah being a foreign national bother you?? Is it all of a sudden okay for anyone from anywhere to run and become President? I guess that as long as we were able to elect a Marixst and we look more "European" that's all that matters???
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Similar to when Joe the plumber asked a simple question, those of us who wonder why Obama has gotten away with not having to show his vault long COLB to the public get ridiculed for just asking for simple proof that he is indeed a natural born citizen.
Why all the vitriole from those who are happy he won? Why don't they want to see the proof too?
Note this comment:
tkstock
on 11/06/2008 I understand that he has it NOW that he's president elect (he has to), but wouldn't he automatically get one regardless of the outcome of any investigation, or even without an investigation entirely? I doubt many people outside the agencies would know that. Assuming someone who was previously unqualified to get a TS clearance was elected president, wouldn't the demands of the office override any investigative issues? That's assuming an investigation was even done.
When GWB was elected, he probably didn't have a TS - but he would've gotten one right away without an investigation I would think.
Dreamzville, why don't you keep your accusations of ludicrous behavior confined to the threads that actually contain ludicrous behavior. The questions I've presented in this thread are honest attempts at trying to understand how "the system" works when someone gets elected.
tkstock
on 11/05/2008 Oh, well just forget the Constitution then. After all, the people have chosen. Who cares if he's eligible or not? It's not important.
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a big fan...
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klesb
on 11/06/2008 Dugg by friends: brad3378, USNavyBlue
Okay, Americans have proved they are past historic racism, and have elected a black person with African roots as their president-elect! We the People are to be congratulated!
Now, will We the People accept the fact that the black person We elected has not proven he is Constitutionally eligible, and may have won through fraud?
No pilot would be permitted to fly an airliner without proof he was qualified - and this is the Presidency!
We need to see the readily-available proof! Obama and the Democratic National Cpmmittee need to immediately furnish that proof. Failure to furnish proof should be considered evidence that it does not exist! Obama's personal desire for prrivacy does not override the Nation's need to know that he meets Constitutional muster. Disclosure will not now affect his election chances. He has passed that point.
The Supreme Court MUST enforce the Constitution's requirements! Or, there are clear grounds for a Second Revolution by a free people!
We the People must not wait until a fraudulent president tries to give orders as a legitimate Commander-in-Chief to a military that will not honor the acts of a fraud. This is serious stuff, folks! It needs to be resolved before the Electoral College meets on December 15th. Or We should march on Washington D.C. on the 15th!
God save these United States of America!
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In 2000, Bush was accused of "stealing the election" and it ultimately had to be resolved via the Supreme Court. The liberals never got over that one.
In this case (and IMO) the worry that Obama may not be a natural born citizen is much more dire than the "hanging chad" debacle of 2000.
This controversy over Obama's vault long COLB not being shown to the public is highly suspect. What is he hiding? That is what we all want to know.
I don't see anything unreasonable about such a request.
I was driving to work and thinking about what the purpose of being sworn in by a judge if the candidate doesn't have to be examined?
ReplyDeleteExcellent point Sosthenes!
ReplyDeleteHave you noticed that the usual commenters who often chastised me for urging people to look into Obama's terrible background and not to vote for him haven't taken any time to come here and debunk this post?
What say you Spud Tooley? GMPilot? John? And all of those Anonymous people who have fallen hook, line, and sinker for the Obama hype?
Silence....
Ok. Imagine it's 1960. Imagine you know Madelyn Dunham, a nice young white girl from Kansas, now living in Hawaii, has had a child with Barack Hussein Obama, from Kenya -- or let's just say it was Malcolm X, for giggles.
ReplyDeleteNow imagine the reaction of the people around her. "Oh, poor thing, the trouble she's going to have, the prejudice, the shame..." etc., etc.,... Remember, these are the days of "To Kill a Mockingbird." "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" is still years down the road.
So let's suppose -- for the sake, again, of argument -- that Madelyn Dunham was out of the country when she had the baby. Maybe she was on vacation in Kiribati. Maybe Malcolm X took her along for the Hajj. Whatevs.
Now tell me that the first priority of 18-year-old Madelyn and her family is too ensure that the birth documents are faked, the local hospital is enrolled in the conspiracy, all to ensure that BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, JUNIOR, an infant "mulatto" (as they said in those days), is not denied the presidency 40 years hence on the basis of a technicality.
Welcome to the next four years. Maybe eight. They're going to be fun.
(P.S. Do you lay awake at night worrying about his guy and his sham presidency?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur
"Chester Alan Arthur was the son of Irish born preacher William Arthur and Vermont born Malvina Stone Arthur. Most official references list him as having been born in Fairfield in Franklin County, Vermont on October 5, 1829. However, Arthur sometimes claimed to have been born in 1830 (the date is on his grave inscription and occurs in some reference works). His father had initially migrated to Dunham, Québec, Canada, where he and his wife at one point owned a farm about 80 miles (129 km) north of the U.S. border. There has long been speculation that the future president was actually born in Canada and that the family moved to Fairfield later. Given a lack of official documentation and the seeming confusion about the year of Arthur's birth, historians have been unable to rule this possibility out. Even if true, he was a natural-born citizen by virtue of his parents' citizenship, thus making him constitutionally eligible to serve as vice president or president. Some of his opponents circulated the Canada rumor during the 1880 election, but they could not prove it, and no proof has emerged since.")
Everyone - please see Zach's latest post.
ReplyDeleteMy comment there:
HI Zach,
Good post. Prior to the results of the election, I was gravely worried that such a rabid, left-wing liberal like Obama would win. However, I was also worried about what would have happened if he lost. I think that there would have been bloodbaths in blue state cities throughout America - and I'm not joking about this.
Yesterday, I did a post (that includes some speculation) about why officials who claim to have seen Obama's birth document end up dismissing lawsuits and then sealing it from public inspection. My question is the same as yours - why is the American public not being allowed to see Obama's vault long COLB?
We have the leader of the public health dept. in Hawaii confirming that there is a BC on file there. Yet, it will not be released to the public.
It will be interesting to see what happens when Justice Souter's request for evidence of the COLB is presented. If he is sufficiently satisfied with it, that's the end of the story (IMO). If he agrees to allow it to be sealed, then we will never get the proof we need, as ordinary citizens, of Obama's natural born citizen status.
There is speculation across the Internet that Obama's real father may have been Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X. Perhaps the secrecy surrounding Obama's COLB is being done to avoid embarrassment? I do find it hard to believe that anyone would go to such lengths for such a reason. If true, would it have mattered during the election? I don't know.
Whatever is being hidden from the public about the man chills me to the bone. What Obama campaigned on and the radicals that have surrounded him and influenced him chills me to the bone. His horribly radical abortion stance chills me to the bone. I could go on and on.
What chills me to the bone the most is the fact that so many people could ignore Obama's crimes and radicalism - and still vote for him. It seems to me that even if absolute evidence was found that Obama was not Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS, those people wouldn't care anyway.
I will be praying diligently for the next great conservative to arise from the ash-heep of this bought, and illegally paid for election. The scandals surrounding the Obama campaign make Nixon's Watergate scandal pale in comparison.
Excellent post! I'm hoping that Sen. Stevens will win his election and then need to step down because of his legal problems. Then maybe, just maybe, Gov. Palin will appoint Sarah Palin to finish his term.
ReplyDeleteHave a Great Day. Zach
My previous question:
ReplyDeletePerhaps I missed the announcement in the news, but does anyone else out there think it a bit strange that Obama didn't return to Hawaii for his grandmother's funeral/memorial service?
Update 11/7/08 - Regarding my question about whether or not Obama will attend his grandma's funeral, these are the few posts that I could find on the subject:
Why Isn't Obama Going or Taking His Family to Grandmother's Funeral?
Some comments there:
To: vidbizz
He didn’t even mention her in the acceptance speech & she had just died the nite before!
Yep, real class has arrived at the WH. too bad it's all LOW.
49 posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:10:20 AM by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
To: dennisw
Also, I found it odd that a man who just made history showed no emotion during his victory speech. Didn’t shed a tear. Read a prepared speech from the teleprompter right up until the end. People in the crowds showed more emotion than he did. It seems to me that someone who supposedly achieved such a milstone would be be able to speak a few words from the heart.
48 posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:10:14 AM by jersey117
Is Obama attending his grandmother's funeral?
Yep....
Possibly a good idea, Zach. But I think that she is more valuable (at this point, anyway) as Governor of Alaska.
ReplyDeleteHopefully, she will get the chance to appoint a pro-life, pro-traditional family Conservative to take Steven's place!
I found this outragous comment from a caller, from a Christain radio that said that Obama did not bring sin in this world!!!!!! I shout it out by calling him a crazy fool!!!! It is sad that so many "Christians" seen Obana as God.
ReplyDeleteI found a Christian website talking about whats Obama going to do as a Preaient:
http://jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/Communism/barack_obama.htm
Hello Christin,
ReplyDeleteI am glad you mentioned that, i thought it was a bit strange that Obama's ailing grandmother died a day before the election. And yes i also think it very strange that he did not attend her funeral but yet he visited her about a week prior to her death. Sounds fishy to me.
I am very disappointed at the outcome of the election i am especially disappointed with those who consider themselves christian who were a part of voting Obama into office.
And to those who elected him as their President i don't mean to disappoint them but I would like to remind them that it is still God who sits on the throne and not Barack Hussein Obama.
Anonymous -
ReplyDeletePlease read my latest post. It explains why so many Christians abandoned biblical values, principles, and the commandments of God to vote to Obama.
Powerful Post Election Message
Dear Tamela -
ReplyDeleteYou wrote:
"And to those who elected him as their President i don't mean to disappoint them but I would like to remind them that it is still God who sits on the throne and not Barack Hussein Obama."
Amen!!!
Please see my latest post (link in previous comment) and spread it around to everyone you know!
Tamela,
ReplyDeleteI keep coming across principles like these and I'm disappointed that other Christians don't understand:
"This is a universal test. If we live up to the light we have, God will give us more, and if we refuse to obey, we will have no more light. Universal sin is the reason for universal darkness. The universal disobedience of man accounts for the spiritual blindness of today. If you desire to be a Bible student, be careful how you approach the Word, and be sure you obey it." -pg.69, Chapter 9, The Principle of Human Willingness in Illumination from "Princiles of Biblical Hermeneutics" by J. Edwin Hartill
Some warnings:
It is possible to be saved and yet suffer great loss (1 Cor. 3:14,15)
It is possible to be saved and yet become a "castaway" - 1 Cor. 9:27
It is possible to be saved and still receive chastisement - Col. 3:25
It is possible for a Christian to so live as to receive back in himself the results of his wrong living - Gal. 6:7-8
-Ibid.
Psalm 50:17 Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee
Psalm 50:21 These things you have done and I kept silent;
you thought I was altogether[fn1] like you.
But I will rebuke you
and accuse you to your face.
If God looked upon iniquity then He couldn't hold His tongue when the wicked devoureth. Thank God for Jesus.
Habakkuk 1:13 [Thou art] of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity: wherefore lookest thou upon them that deal treacherously, [and] holdest thy tongue when the wicked devoureth [the man that is] more righteous than he?
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