When do we get to say that Obama is treasonous? Well...maybe the term "treason" would not apply to this person because he is most likely INELIGIBLE FOR POTUS IN THE FIRST PLACE! That means that he can (and should) be removed from office immediately.
Mr. Barack Hussein Obama/a.k.a. Barry Soetoro - where's your proof that you are, indeed, a natural born citizen of the United States of America?
John McCain showed all of his documents. Where are yours? Under lock and key? Why? What do you have to hide???
Thank you, Mr. Keyes! You are TRULY a patriot and American hero!
Alan Keyes Video Link
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Mr. Barack Hussein Obama/a.k.a. Barry Soetoro - The American People want to know, who sent you?
Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no records -- no paper trail -- none -- this can't be an accident.
Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released
Punahou School records -- Not released
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
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Another great American patriot - Glenn Beck!
GlenBeck: NH Sovereignty - over 20 states aboard now! Civil War?!
freedominfonetwork
February 14, 2009
Aired: 2/13/09 Glen Beck interviews NH Representave Dan Itse regarding the states sovereignty claim that over 20 states have now joined. This is big news in our time. Nothing like this has been seen!
Glenn Beck Video
Go to NH Liberty.org for more information.
Nobody who matters takes Alan Keyes seriously, especially the Illinois voters who CRUSHED him at the polls when he ran against Obama. He is a national joke. By the way, why in your ranting do you never mention the two birth announcements in two different Hawaiian newspapers which ran the week of Obama's birth? These are available for public inspection. Let me guess your response: Obama is so evil and devious that he invented a time machine to travel back to plant these fake notices. Am I close? That makes as much sense as most of the rest of your paranoid ravings.
ReplyDeleteKen wrote:
ReplyDelete"By the way, why in your ranting do you never mention the two birth announcements in two different Hawaiian newspapers which ran the week of Obama's birth?"
1. It is possible that the announcement was placed in the paper after the birth was originally done in Nairobi, Kenya. Hawaii allows foreign born births to be recorded in that state (at least this was true in 1961).
2. Even if Obama/Soetoro was born in Hawaii (no records in any Hawaiian hospital, btw) his father was a British subject due to Kenya being under the jurisdiction of Britain in 1961. To be a "natural born citizen," BOTH parents must be U.S. Citizens at the time of the child's birth.
3. There is also the adoption of Obama/Soetoro by Lolo Soetoro and the move to Indonesia where young Obama attended school for several years. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Therefore, Obama/Soetoro lost his U.S. citizenship. Because he won't release the list of records in the original post there, we can't even know if he even naturalized properly. He may even be an illegal alien!
Why would Obama/Soetoro hide all of his college records? Maybe it is because he attended as a foreign exchange student? Again, the natural born citizenship question arises.
If you don't think that this is a very important issue, then read this:
Why the POTUS Needs to
Be a Natural-Born Citizen
I read the little article you recommended above, and, aside from the fact that the author can't spell ("compliment" instead of "complement"), he destroys his own argument in the last paragraph. Being a natural born citizen is no guarantee of any of the behaviors he seeks. Some of the most fiercely patriotic people I have ever met have been naturalized citizens. Come clean, Christine. You know very well this whole exercise is just an attempt to nullify the election, which didn't go the way you wanted. You know very well that if the situation were reversed--McCain had won the election and his citizenship were being questioned by liberals--you know you would be screaming bloody murder ("Treason!") and accusing them of trying to subvert the will of the people by attempting to overturn the election. Can you at least be honest enough with yourself to admit that?
ReplyDeleteKen -
ReplyDeleteI didn't like it when Bill Clinton was voted into office. However, since he qualified for the office of POTUS as per the conditions set in our U.S. Constitution, I didn't do anything to try to "overturn the election."
This case is different.
I can see that you are more interested in pointing out a small error in spelling by the author - rather than being magnanimous towards the author about the mountain of reasons he presents as to why the natural born citizen clause in our U.S. Constitution is necessary for POTUS.
You seem concerned about "subverting the will of the people." Well - what do you call someone running for president who does not even qualify in the first place?
Can you tell me why:
Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no records -- no paper trail -- none -- this can't be an accident.
Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released
Punahou School records -- Not released
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
Talking to you is like trying to debate a trained parrot. All you can do is cut and paste the same material over and over. Yes, I did mention, in passing, the author's spelling error. That was not the main point of my comment. Let me try again: Other than being a technicality in the Constitution, what difference does being a natural born citizen make? It is not a guarantee of loyalty or competence. The author and I are in agreement that naturalized citizens can be just--if not more--patriotic than natural born citizens. After a long and grueling campaign season, a clear majority of American voters were satisfied with Obama's credentials. Deal with it. (I know what's coming next. The Mainstream Media, yadda, yadda.)
ReplyDeleteKen wrote:
ReplyDelete"Talking to you is like trying to debate a trained parrot."
Then why do you keep torturing yourself and coming over here to comment?
I don't see you answering any of the questions I have asked.
(ignore, ignore, ignore...)
@ ken wow, come up with facts instead of insults toward a level headed girl, I mean geez atleast she has an opinion that hasn't been pounded into her by Media or those around her.
ReplyDeleteAtleast she can think for herself.
along with Jesus too. :D
usually those who insult the way a person "speaks" or types has no idea what he is talking about.
Thank you, Anonymous! Really appreciated your reply to Ken.
ReplyDeleteSenator Martinez seems to have a similar attitude as Ken has towards the Constitutional requirements for POTUS.
Interesting comments there, too.
My comment there:
Christinewjc says:
March 5, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I understand what you are saying about Martinez’ opinion, Phil. But wouldn’t it be a “given,” based on the three requirements listed in the Constitution, that any and all candidates MUST be vetted - especially in front of, and for the purpose of the public knowing about such eligibility or ineligibility?
Isn’t it true that Nancy Pelosi made the claim that Obama was eligible in the first place because she signed some paper making him the Democratic nominee and candidate?
Wasn’t there a person in one of the states that was found ineligible because he wasn’t a “natural born citizen” and was therefore removed from the ballot in that state? Why does Obama get a pass on this and that guy didn’t?
I can’t see why all of the actions that have happened to allow Obama to get elected (despite the fact that the Constitution SAYS he is not eligible because he was born as a British subject) cannot retroactively be declared null and void. His father (if, in fact his father was Obama Sr.) was NEVER naturalized to the U.S. Both parents must be U.S. citizens for the child to be considered “natural born.” Plus, if his mother renounced U.S. citizenship when Lolo Soetoro adopted Obama Jr. and they moved and lived in Indonesia for many years, then their child became an Indonesian citizen. From what I have read, Indonesia (at the time) did not allow dual citizenship. Not sure if that is still the case.
There is also evidence that Obama traveled to Pakistan when it was forbidden by the U.S. Gov’t. to travel there. Did he use an Indonesian passport to do that?
I am just appalled that this Martinez guy could just shrug off such an important stipulation in our U.S. Constitution and claim that “the majority of people voted for Obama” so therefore - it’s O.K. As Rev. Bresciani once wrote, “The truth is, if what we are trying to show America has even an ounce of truth to it then 305,000,000 Americans have been subject to the fraud!”
I wonder. Would Martinez have cared about “natural born citizen” status if some rogue Islamic terrorist got into the presidency in the same way?