The Talk Wisdom post contains just a short excerpt from Hal Lindsey's WorldNetDaily article that was written back in August, 2007.
If you read through the comment thread at the Talk Wisdom link above, you will notice that a blogger named "Aaron" took me to task for agreeing with Lindsey's article. He perceived the following portion from Lindsey's original article at WorldNetDaily in 2007 to mean something different than how I perceived what Lindsey was actually saying:
We live in much greater stress and anxiety because of the "exponential rate of change" that is accelerating in our world. The world into which I was born ceased to exist a long time ago. But the change was gradual enough to allow me time to adjust. The world into which people were born in the year 2000 is already disappearing. It will not exist by 2012.
I think that commentator "Aaron" saw the statement "it will not exist by 2012" as a statement that meant that Lindsey believed that the entire world would not exist by that date. However, that does not fit with the context of what Lindsey stated next:
Just try to figure what the impact of the following facts will be. There are 3,000 new books published every single day. We've gone from information overload to information explosion. More new information will be generated this year than in the previous five thousand years.
The way I perceived what Lindsay was saying is that the specific way that the world existed in the year 2000 will not exist by 2012.
Look at the huge changes our nation has experienced due to the election of 2008! Of course, Lindsey could not have predicted (and didn't try to) who would win the election. However, our nation has ALREADY experienced that "exponential change" that Lindsey predicted for the future year of 2012!
Now, the following paragraphs are speculation, on my part. However, if you will allow me to think out loud for a moment, we could see how prophetically accurate Lindsey really was in his prediction for "exponential change" in the year 2012.
While walking my dog this morning, several thoughts occurred to me.
1. I thought about a post I read (will locate links later - time constraints right now) over at RepubX that claimed that the voting machines in many states can be rigged to achieve a positive outcome for the party already in power. This could affect both the 2010 congressional elections as well as the 2012 presidential election.
Let's say that by 2012, the American people want to vote out the current administration. However, the rigged voting machines keep Obama in office. Is there any doubt that there would be a civil war here in America??
2. I also thought that perhaps the 2012 election would include a three-way race between Obama, Palin (as an Independent), and a Republican candidate. Perhaps the split between Palin and the Republican candidate would give Obama his second term. I absolutely SHUDDER to think what American will look like if Obama stays in office. The nightmare that we are currently experiencing will look like a fairy tale compared to the tyranny that would be inflicted upon us in his second term.
3. Before the 2008 election, I read an intriguing comment by a Christian writer over at The Nein Blog (hope I can find it again) that contained a prediction that George W. Bush will be the last American President. If it is true that Obama was ineligible to be POTUS, as many of the lawsuit plaintiffs have claimed, then that could be an accurate and true claim - especially if my fourth comment of speculation (God forbid!) came true.
4. With the public becoming increasingly alarmed at Obama, his creepy czars, and his terrible policies (plus the fact that Congress will most likely [hopefully] change its majority to Conservative Republicans in 2010), it seems to me that he could never be re-elected legitimately again. In 2010 or 2011, Congress will investigate his British citizenship and see that he is not a natural born citizen (see sidebar for information about this). What such a discovery could lead to is any one's guess. However, if we still see the refusal of the liberal leftist courts to take the case, Obama and his cohorts would have to rig the election (with far more powerful methods than ACORN and SEIU in 2008) or just basically declare himself as a tyrannical dictator - similar to what Hugo Chavez did in Venezuela.
*End of speculation comments.*
The outrage that most of the public feels with Eric Holder's announcement of trials for 9/11 terrorists in a N.Y. civil court - rather than through the proper channels of military tribunals - might just be the straw that broke the camel's back.
There was a good back and forth commentary between O'Reilly and Karl Rove on The O'Reilly Factor last night. Bill asked why the Bush Administration didn't push through the military hearings on the terrorists. Karl said that the ACLU lawyers held up such proceedings. Now, with a radical liberal-leftist administration in there, the ACLU has finally gotten it's way to move the trials into civilian court.
What a travesty of justice!! 96% of people in a Fox News poll said that they thought this was the wrong move by the Attorney General!!
Back to Lindsey's article.
Even though it has been only two years and three months since the writing of Lindsey's article, what he predicted in it is already coming true!
Here is the rest of the 2007 article:
The technical knowledge explosion is governed by Moore's Law, which says computers will get twice as smart every 18 to 24 months. It takes four years to get a technical degree. By the time a student graduates, his education is virtually obsolete.
The prophet Daniel was given visions of the world as it would exist in the days leading to the Second Coming of Christ. The Apostle John was time-traveled forward to be an actual eyewitness of the final days of this age. Unfortunately, both men also suffered from the same communication difficulties. There were no words in their vocabularies to describe what they witnessed.
How could a man of the first century A.D. who has never seen a machine describe the technical marvels of the 21st century? John was told to write about what he saw. I think he did an inspired job.
Today, Daniel and Revelation are among the most discussed and debated books within the whole canon of Scripture. More expositions have been written in the past 10 years focusing on Daniel and Revelation than probably any other books in the Bible. It's as if the words of these books were sealed up until the time appointed.
Even 60 years ago, most of what Daniel predicted here didn't make sense. These things certainly did not make sense to the generations prior to the 20th century. Daniel, directly taught by Heaven's highest angel, Michael, said as much. Daniel asked the archangel, "As for me, I heard but could not understand; so I said, 'My lord, what will be the outcome of these events?'"
Note very carefully the archangel Michael's reply, "Go your way, Daniel, for these words are concealed and sealed up until the end time. Many will be purged, purified and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; and none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand."
This was the second time Michael told Daniel that the words were to be sealed until the time of the last days generation to whom they were addressed. The archangel concludes with special instructions to Daniel: "But as for you, Daniel, conceal – or encrypt – these words and seal up the book until the time of the end; many will go [travel] back and forth, and knowledge will increase."
Knowledge has greatly increased. And as we've seen will increase even more. Also, just as predicted in this verse, the limitations of time and space to travel have been exponentially decreased.
This has unlocked the encrypted prophetic messages that were intended for this generation. Current events have unlocked them further. All of these things point to the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ is coming very soon.
Don't put off your decision any longer. Time is rapidly running out for you to get ready to meet Him when He comes. Just recognize you are a sinner, and accept the gift of pardon He purchased for you in His own blood. He is coming, and soon.
Whether you are ready or not.
Hat Tip:
WorldNetDaily: Hal Lindsey's "The Words of Daniel Finally Unsealed.
For more about Hal Lindsey and his writings see his website:
The Hal Lindsey Report
Hasn't Lindsey made some inaccurate prophecies in the past? If so, I'd ignore him. My view is that anyone trying to be a prophet better get it right every time. They make Christians look foolish when they are wrong.
ReplyDeleteHal is a zionist that can't see that Obama is the Antichrist because he is looking for someone to come out of Europe and and EU world Gov.Sorry,it is the UN and Obama.I won't even go into his past books because they were all offbase but did awaken many people to biblical prophecy.But any discerning Christian will eventually study on their own and not worship Israel[Rev.2:9;3:9 and John 8]/
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ReplyDeleteI don't give much credence to the Maya 'predictions' of 2012, so why would I think Hal Lindsey's are in any way better? Many forecasts have been made for the future, all of them made with absolute certainty--”written in stone” as it were—and none of them have been 100% correct. Most of them haven't even been 50% correct.
ReplyDeleteThe science boys have a better track record than the mystics, but the fact is that no one knows the future. One little unforeseen detail can change everything.
Lindsey should know better than most how close Revelation came to being left out of the bible completely. It was believed by some of the early church fathers that its purple prose would lead to speculation about what would happen next, and thus lead to heresy—as indeed it often has.
People like the idea of a cataclysm; always have, always will. Whether it be the end of the Mayan cycle, or the sun going nova, or God wiping out 90-plus percent of humanity, we are fascinated by such stuff, as Lindsey well knows; after all wasn't his first book one of the bestselling nonfiction (heh, heh) titles of the '70s?
But for any of us, right now, today could be the end of the world. It is more likely if you live in Afghanistan, or Zaire, or Brazil, or Cambodia, where bomb and bullet is a way of life. In North America or Europe, that's less likely, which is one reason the Ft. Hood mass shootings were so upsetting—that kind of thing is not supposed to happen here!
That would be a good reason to turn to your God, I'm sure you'd say. But to do so out of fear—isn't that a bit like starting fires so you can get credit for putting them out?
To many people (not all of them Christians) the end of the world would be a relief, I suppose. To me, that speaks of self-contempt—and if you feel that about yourself, you'll certainly feel it about others.
It's been two years. How many revisions will Lindsey come up with this time?
Hi Neil,
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure whether or not Lindsey made inaccurate predictions in the past. I read "The Late Great Planet Earth" so long ago that I don't even remember much of what was written in the book! I have heard that some claim he tried to predict an exact date for Christ's return, but I'm not sure if that is true or not.
If it is true, perhaps he has learned from his mistakes?
What did you think about my interpretation of the following sentences vs. what commenter "Aaron" thought Lindsey meant?
Quote: We live in much greater stress and anxiety because of the "exponential rate of change" that is accelerating in our world. The world into which I was born ceased to exist a long time ago. But the change was gradual enough to allow me time to adjust. The world into which people were born in the year 2000 is already disappearing. It will not exist by 2012. /quote
Anonymous @ November 14, 2009 10:02:00 PM PST
ReplyDeleteA few questions.
Are you the same "Anonymous" who posted the link to the "last trumpet newsletter" link?
How can you be so certain that Obama is THE Antichrist? I can agree that he is a type of antichrist because of his immoral, unbiblical, and anti-Christian beliefs and policies. But I find it difficult to name him as THE Antichrist of Revelation.
I'm not sure of why you brought up "worshiping Israel." I don't know any Christians who actually do such a thing.
I agree that Lindsey has helped awaken many to biblical prophecy, and that is a good thing. I also agree that each Christian must be discerning (especially these days!), study, and search the Scriptures to find out what is truth and what is not truth.
GM - The prophecies that have been fulfilled with complete accuracy have been those from God's Word.
ReplyDeleteThere are no new "prophets" today; only prophecy interpreters - because the prophets of the Bible have all already spoken.
We see you are a Birther and mention "leftist courts" in your jeremiad. Your friend Orly Taitz who was fined US$ 20 000 for filing frivolous lawsuits was given this fine by Judge Clay Land of the Middle District of Georgia who was nominated for the federal bench in 2001 by President George W Bush. The problem with persons who are pious and arrogant is that they think facts are stupid things.
ReplyDelete1. Rigged voting machines?? Really?? Like the ones in Ohio uncovered by Black Box Voting that We are sure a good Christianist like you rebuked as "Bush bashing." Time constraints? Not enough time to do a Google search??? We found the article about Sequoia voting machines in 0.72 seconds with a simple search of "RepubX rigged voting machines." Like most right wing Christianists you are intellectually lazy.
We imagine that you will watch this civil war from the comfort of your own home since all that blood and violence is other people's work like the patriotic wars in Afghanistan and Iraq?
2. Unless you have lost your job, lost your home or lost your life since President Obama wasa sworn in what has changed?? You still live the same bloated; debt based materialist lifestyle that you prayed thanks for everyday. What has Obama taken from you?
3. See earlier commentary about Birther lunacy.
4. This is a sign of some mental defect. Do you hear voices when you skip your meds?
Rudy Giuliani when he was the US Attorney for the Southern District New York City demanded that the first bombers of the World Trade Center during the Clinton administration be tried in New York City where the crime occurred. What is different now??
Every few years some small cult feels the end is nigh. Every few hundred years technology, science and the political events of the day create a true sea change in society in the more powerful nations of the world and those who feel power slipping away become fearful of this change and seek to pray it away.
The age of the golden calf was replaced with the age of the fish. The age of the fish is coming now to its end to be replaced by the age of the water bearer. Such is the procession of time; comes soon a man who can draw power from water and liberate Mankind from the yoke of petrochemicals and the blindness of social control fueled by religious superstition. This Traveler the Water Bearer comes soon.
Qu'ul cuda praedex nihil!