Saturday, August 06, 2011

Helicopter Crash Killing SEAL Team 6 Members Seems Fishy

Honestly?? I do not know WHAT to believe anymore. That is why this post is one of my "Talk Wisdom Reports - You Decide" links to a blog that counters the Media of Mass Deception explanations of everything being done by the Obama Regime. I was busy all day today and did not see the news on T.V., the radio, or the Internet until just now. When I heard about the Helicopter crash killing 30 Americans I got sick to my stomach!

Fox News:
Helicopter Crash in Afghanistan Reportedly Kills Members of SEAL Team 6

The whole Bin Laden raid, killing, and dumping the body in the sea seemed fishy to many bloggers. Some are even convinced that it was all a hoax - and absolute sham! I would not put it past this evil administration to make up the entire story of Bin Laden's demise. Ms. Ann Barnhardt seems convinced that it was all a ruse. Read Ann Barnhardt's last four posts and you will understand why I am even more sick to my stomach tonight!!

Like Ann, I thought that Bin Laden was dead years ago...probably from kidney disease...and since no official announcement was made, our sitting pResident in the White House decided he needed to take attention about from his latest fraudulent act and do something "big" to shift public attention away.

I hope to God that what Ann has written isn't true. But this sick feeling in my gut tells me that the Obama regime would do ANYTHING to cover up their evil and stay in power.

Excerpts from the four posts:

1. Obama commissions Hollywood pic on OBL Raid
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 9:48 PM MST
Yep. Published this very day, written by uber-leftist Maureen Dowd of the New York Times. The Obama regime has commissioned a major motion picture about the fake Bin Laden raid. The film will be released . . . October 12, 2012.
Guys, we're into full-blown Leni Reifenstahl territory now.

Here's the link to the Dowd piece. I am linking to page 2 of 2 because that's where the stuff about the movie is, but do read the whole thing.
Read up.

Sounds harmless, right? Read on.

2. Update: Bin Laden Raid Story Being Debunked
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 8:04 PM MST
Via, the widely read cover story published in the New Yorker on August 1 by Nicholas Schmidle supposedly detailing the entire Bin Laden raid is being exposed as a fraud. And if you read the debunking piece linked below, you will see that the author C. Christine Fair is no conservative and even calls anti-sharia legislation in the U.S. "ludicrous and shameful." If you aren't familiar with the New Yorker magazine, it is an uber-liberal mouthpiece for the Obama regime.
Read up.

3. The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 1)
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:08 PM MST
You're damn right I said it.
On May 5th I had an email conversation with a retired military man with spook contacts. All were in total agreement that the Bin Laden episode was pure theater. The SEALS were sent into a compound as evidenced by the lost chopper on site. But Osama Bin Laden wasn't in that compound. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for years. Bin Laden had a genetic condition that caused renal failure (this genetic condition is common among deeply inbred Saudi arab muslims). Bin Laden had been on dialysis BEFORE 9/11. Dialysis is difficult enough for people in first world countries who can have it done in outstanding facilities. Bin Laden was having it done either in caves or in homes post 9/11. People in renal failure having dialysis done in fricking caves do NOT live for ten more years. Period. There was no dialysis equipment found in the compound the SEALS raided on May 2. Of course there wasn't. Bin Laden wasn't in that compound because Bin Laden has been dead for years.

This is why the "body" was declared "positively identified" faster than any known DNA testing process in existence - and this DNA testing was carried out not in a lab mind you, but inside Chinook and/or V-22 Osprey helos en route to the USS Carl Vinson. The body was then dumped into the Indian Ocean in a mad dash to ensure that "burial" took place within 24 hours of death in order to "honor" musloid burial traditions. Not a single picture of the so-called "Bin Laden corpse" has ever been released - and never will.

The entire Bin Laden episode was stagecraft. It was pure theater that was designed to give Obama a boost in the polls and give distraction and cover. Distract from what? Cover from what?

April 20, 2011: The release date of Dr. Jerome Corsi's book, "Where's the Birth Certificate" is announced as May 17, and pre-sales begin on Corsi's work is known to be extremely thorough and meticulous. Within hours, Corsi's book is #1 on - fully 28 days before its release. The Obama regime is panicked.

April 27, 2011: In order to diffuse and undercut the Corsi book, the Obama regime releases a PDF image purported to be a scan of his original long-form Hawaiian birth certificate. Within hours, thousands of graphic designers, many of whom are self-professed Obama voters and supporters, isolate and demonstrate with dozens of objective proof sets that the PDF released by the Obama regime is not just a forgery, but an astoundingly incompetent and obvious forgery.

It gets worse....

4. The Execution of SEAL Team Six (Part 2)
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 6, AD 2011 4:07 PM MST
August 6, 2011: A Chinook helo is shot down in Tangi, Wardak Province, Afghanistan. Within hours, before family notifications could possibly have been completed, global press accounts positively confirm that 22 of the 30 Americans killed were not just SEALS, but members of SEAL Team 6. Again, DEVGRU operations have been, up until now, highly classified. Today, the Obama regime made a point of immediately revealing the unit identities of the SPECOPS forces among the dead.
In the past, DEVGRU men and other SPECOPS men have been killed in action, but their missions were so secret and so crucial to OPSEC that their deaths were covered-up by the government and attributed to such things as “training accidents” and the like – and I have no problem with that. These men understand going in to intense units such as DEVGRU that OPSEC is paramount, that they will never be publicly acknowledged for their heroism, and that if they are killed or captured in action, the government will lie about that in order to protect OPSEC and to prevent the enemy from gaining a propaganda and morale coup. Compare that reality with what happened today. The Obama regime distributed this information, and the Obama regime’s lapdog press instantly splashed headlines declaring this as the Taliban’s “REVENGE” for the “death of Bin Laden.” As I write this now, the Drudge Report headline in bright red reads, “REVENGE: SEALS WHO GOT OSAMA KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN.”

I’ll say what everyone else is thinking but is too scared to say. The Obama regime is almost certainly directly complicit in these deaths. The time, location and most especially, the PASSENGERS in the Chinook were passed to the Taliban. Additionally, you can’t take out a Chinook with small arms fire or even standard RPGs such as the Taliban use. The Taliban needed serious weaponry to take this helo down, and that serious weaponry needed to be in exactly the right spot at exactly the right time, ready to fire.

Why would the Obama regime kill Americans? I think the question is, why WOULDN’T the Obama regime kill Americans? The Obama regime is composed of Marxist-Leninist psychopaths. A glancing, superficial survey of 20th century history shows one glaring fact above all others: MARXISTS MURDER PEOPLE WITHOUT COMPUNCTION. Marxists also hate Americans, by definition. Three tacks:

1. The men on board the Chinook may have been the same men who participated or had direct knowledge of the staged Bin Laden raid and were killed to permanently silence them. See my email exchange of May 5 above.

2. These DEVGRU men were killed to send a signal to the surviving DEVGRU men who carried out the Bin Laden raid to keep their mouths shut.

3. Certainly, the release of the unit identity of the dead within hours – before even family notification could have been made (which requires an IN PERSON visit to the family, remember) was an obvious bow to Al Qaeda, the Taliban and the entire muslim world. This event was INSTANTLY propagandized by the Obama media as “revenge” exacted for Bin Laden’s death. And remember, Bin Laden has been dead for many years. The raid of May 2 was pure stagecraft to distract the world from the release of the forged Obama birth certificate.

I am not a conspiracy theorist. I can’t stand Alex Jones or any 9/11 truther. I have turned down dozens of interviews with such types. In fact, I am a huge believer in the Lex Parsimoniae, which is sometimes called “Occam’s Razor”, which states that the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. I teach this as part of my job, namely that the cattle markets are neither manipulated nor impossible to operate within at a profit. The reality is that the cattle industry participants do not make money because they are functionally incompetent. It is very, very simple. True conspiracies are very rare.

This entire Obama situation is a conspiracy, and I say that without the slightest hesitation. Obama is not a citizen of the United States, he is a puppet front for a cabal of Marxist-Leninsts including Soros, Ayers, Dohrn, Strong, Jarrett and many, many others. These people are enemies of the United States. These people are deeply psychologically damaged, and are capable of ordering people murdered in order to protect themselves and increase their own power. The three dead homosexual black men from Trinity United Church of Christ, Young, Bland and Spencer, all of whom were sexually linked to Barack Obama, were probably the first people specifically murdered by the Obama regime. The hundreds of Mexicans and the two American agents Terry and Zapata were murdered by Operation Fast and Furious in order to advance and increase the power of the Obama regime. These SEALS and the others on board that Chinook today were almost certainly betrayed and murdered by the Obama regime.

Why did the Obama regime immediately reveal the unit identity of the SPECOPS forces involved in the first place, despite the fact that DEVGRU was highly classified? Why was the personnel composition of the Chinook released IMMEDIATELY today after the helo went down – before even family notifications could be made? WHY? Why would you hand your enemy, Al Qaeda and the Taliban, a massive propaganda coup? WHY?

I’ll tell you why. Because the Obama regime IS THE ENEMY. They are Marxist tyrants who hold the lives of Americans not just cheap, but in scathing contempt. They will say anything, they will do anything, and they will murder ANYONE in order to protect themselves and consolidate and increase their power. Please, I beg you, for the love of God and all that is good in this world, read the history of the Soviet Union. Read about Lenin and Stalin and how they murdered people without any hesitation. Read about how Hitler was constantly ordering the murder of his own officers. Read about Communist China. Read about Mao and the millions upon tens of millions of murders he ordered. Read about the killing fields of the Communist Khmer Rouge in Cambodia led by Pol Pot. PLEASE. Marxists MURDER PEOPLE. That is what they do. The Obama regime is MARXIST to the bone. If the Obama regime is not stopped, the 30 Americans murdered today in Afghanistan will be just the beginning. I promise you that.

Please go to the link (above, at top of page) and finish reading each post.

Is it too much of a coincidence that SEAL Team 6 members were killed in a shot down helicopter in Afghanistan? I think so...

Praying for the families and loved ones of those brave souls whose earthly lives were lost. Hope that they were each believers in Jesus Christ and are now with Him.

Other bloggers thoughts:

Tragedy! Twenty Members of Seal Team Six, the Unit Responsible for Getting Osama Bin Laden, Killed In Afg... Coincidence?
7 hours ago
In Memoriam August 6, 2011
4 hours ago

posted by Lady Liberty at The Gateway Pundit - 19 hours ago
(Vanity Fair) This was the largest single loss of life ever for SEAL Team Six. Fox News reported - The Associated Press has learned that more than 20 Navy SEALs from the unit that killed Osama bin Laden we...
&Note: MANY comments over at Gateway Pundit reveal the same gut wrenching feeling that this was either planned as a set up for revenge of Bin Laden's death and/or that Obama knew about it before it happened.

Read all of the comments at the GP site. One commentor is claiming that maybe the SEALS deaths were faked? Bin Laden's death? Don't know how that could be pulled off but I wouldn't put ANYTHING past this evil MarxObama monster in the White House.

Here are some of the best comments:
#39 August 6, 2011 at 1:41 pm
WillofLa commented:
I just heard on a news break on the radio that, yes, it was SEAL team 6 who had killed Bin Laden but it wasn’t the very guys who were in on the attack.

This is either the beginning of the cover up, or we need to wait for more info to come out as to who it actually was who got killed.

But dig this, Obama has already sent out his condolences to the families of the guys who were killed. Okay, that’s cool, but he still may have known about this.

Also, #16 has a valid point that our military is full of Muslims who may have leaked this intel to his buddies in the Taliban.

I’m telling you right now, that if the Dept. of the Navy doesn’t find out who did this then we will know that we are all in a world of hurt, that our own Navy with all it’s secret crap that they are involved in, think about all the stuff they’ve designed and use to do all the secret stuff they do, and they wouldn’t be able to find out who it was who leaked the intel?

Otherwise this was just a lucky hit.

#67 August 6, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Bitter Clinger commented:
And just where is our esteemed CIC? Following the downgrade of our credit and the slaughter of our heroic SEALs, he’s hiding in his shell (crib) like a frightened turtle. You recall him racing to the microphones and cameras when the SEALs took down OBL, right? Why isn’t he in front of the MSM now? Inquiring minds want to know. But, he may need a rest given the festivities of the past week and he’s snoozing. All that fund raising and partying at our WH has worn the babe out……awh………

#71 August 6, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Druid commented:
I would think it unlikely to find 20 SEALS in one place at one time – even in the COMMZ

#74 August 6, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Granny commented:
#71 August 6, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Druid commented:

I would think it unlikely to find 20 SEALS in one place at one time – even in the COMMZ.

25 – plus an Afgani special ops team. see - many people are finding this whole thing quite odd.

79 August 6, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Redwine commented:
Commie Panetta moves from the CIA to the Pentagon. Then this happens. There’s no such thing as a coincidence.

For Comrade Dear Leader, it’s just one more excuse to party on.

We are being “nudged”.

#81 August 6, 2011 at 2:30 pm
KOW commented:
So, we are to believe that someone allowed over 20 seals onto a slow moving troop transport aircraft, right into the middle of a fight? If you are going to be dropping them off near the battle, they parachute in, or drop them off in smaller groups with quicker strike and aircraft, Otherwise you drop them off in the slow moving craft a mile a way and they hike it in. I still say you dont put that many elite into one craft, and one slow moving craft that like to crash on its on, and likes to be shot down.

I guess I am Monday morning quarterbacking.
#82 August 6, 2011 at 2:37 pm
succotash commented:
Like the rest of the posters here I do not believe in coincidences. Something smells ! My heart breaks for the families and friends of these brave heroes and they will remain in my prayers. We owe it to them to insist this be investigated to the fullest.

donh commented:
Why were so many of the best of the best flying with ” 7 Afgani commandos ” ? Seems ripe for a security breach. Yet they must have had a very important mission…to kill Zawahiri? Mullah Omar ? August 5th was an extremely sad day in American History.

94 August 6, 2011 at 3:26 pm
Craig commented:
Osama Ben Laden died in December 2001 in an hospital in Saudi Arabia… wake-up! Your illegal President got the navy seals killed to silenced them. Barack needed this false flag killing of Ben Laden, to reboost his presidency. The information had started to leak, and this was Soetoro’s solution. Grow-up!

#95 August 6, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Freddy commented:
There never was a reason for ANYONE to know what seal team six was in the first place.

The politicians in the Obama White House painted a big target on that unit.

We have a sadly inexperienced commander in the White House.

97 August 6, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Baraq Hasan al-Bama commented:
Re SEAL Team 6: the idiot Joe Biden is the one who revealed that they were the unit that executed the bin Laden raid. This is against military SOP. Conclusion: their blood is on Obama administration’s hands.

108 August 6, 2011 at 5:07 pm
ruready? commented:
Guys, there are five events that that just occurred within ~48 hours – but what are the chances that this is just merely a coincidence?

1) We have just had the greatest loss of life since the war in Afghanistan began
2) This loss………. was from the squad of OBL termination heros, Seal Team 6
3) This same day our nation loses its top credit rating (after the Tea Party manhandles Congress, I might add) – and we now have less financial respect than France
4) Thursday we just had the worst day in our stock market since 2008
5) These two events occurred within 48 hours at the end of a week (Thursday and Friday)

Come on. What is going on??

Granny commented:
Whatever it is, I am by trade and training a scientist and I can assure you that there is no such thing as coincidence

What is going on? Look to Europe in 1939 for some hints

#119 August 6, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Richard Popovich commented:
The fault for this shoot-down lies with the fact that the Obama Administration couldn’t keep their mouths shut about who who conducted the Bin Laden raid. My best guess is that while being a good actor about Bin Laden’s death, Obama was ticked-off with the SEAL’s successful raid, and passed information along about what they were doing, and where they would be.


These men were given-up by our own government, and heads should roll, but the communist leaders in the White House are more slippery than a “Teflon Don.”
#120 August 6, 2011 at 8:00 pm
ruready? commented:
Obama killed these seals.

1) He gave their identity away.
2) He made them fly with a UN pilot – probably an unskilled aviator.
3) He dispirited them by playing politics on the front line by warning them they might not get paid.

Our President is a pre-meditated murderer of Navy Seals.
Strong letter to follow.

123 August 6, 2011 at 9:02 pm
sablegsd commented:
Something reeks mightily about this slaughter of our best and brightest.
I HATE that traitorous obamanation.

Prayers for the lost souls and their families.
And we need to get down on our knees and pray that God will turn his face to us again.

I second that prayer!

Many, many more at the GP site...and great links to click on and read, too.

SEALs Community Mourns Tremendous Loss - Visit for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy WASHINGTON (AP) — Pentagon leaders are mourning the deaths of 38 U.S. and Afghan...
8 hours ago
Comments over at The Blaze are expressing deep sorrow and concern that the SEALS were set up.

Posted on August 7, 2011 at 7:53am
My husband’s last duty station (ending in 2001) was working with the SEAL team out of Hawaii (Not Team Six, another one). He has a real soft spot for the SEAL teams. This ripped his heart out. We both think it was a trade-off for taking out Ben Laden…..”I’m going to have Ben Laden taken out, but don’t worry. At a later date I’ll hand over the men who took him out.” I think this goes all the way to the top.

Posted on August 7, 2011 at 9:39am
America is being destroyed by enemies within. We must vote the treasonous anti-Americans out of office. Barry Soetoro and his thugs are responsible for this tragedy. No doubt in my mind.

jungle J
Posted on August 7, 2011 at 7:37am
someone appointed to the state department from the current administration tipped off the Taliban.

Posted on August 7, 2011 at 11:25am
I’ve read all the post on this subject. I’m telling you this whole mess does not pass the smell test. When Obummer needs to deflect negative focus I.e. Financial down grade, nothing surprises me about this corrupt administration. We may never know, but this massive loss of life of some of our finest fighting men, just seems to be a set up. I just hope we learn the truth someday. Obummer needs to go. How many believe that he will gin up some type of dire situation to prevent the 2012 election. I don’t believe this moron will leave office willingly. God bless our fighting men and women.

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