Sharing the Triune Nature of God

HT:  james2.com


Late yesterday morning while walking my dogs back to our home, I found a man with a shoulder sack and his daughter standing at my front door.  I thought, "Let me guess...either they are Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons!"  Well, I was correct.  They were Jehovah's Witnesses (JW's). 

The man said, "Hello, my daughter would like to offer you some information."  Next, the little girl (I would guess she was around 8 years old) started talking about the Watch Tower pamphlets in her hands.  I politely listened to what she had to say,  knowing that I would not be taking the pamphlets.  However, I told her that I was very impressed with how well she briefly articulated what the pamphlets contain.

I have learned over the years that it is best to "cut to the chase" when speaking with JW's.  I looked at her father and stated that I had shared the company of a lovely woman named Teresa back in the 1990's.  She came to my door in her wheelchair, and I didn't have the heart to turn her away.  However, after several weeks of visits, we ended up parting ways when her faith teaching rejected the reality of our triune God. 

The man instantly knew who I was talking about!  This has been a typical reaction of the JW's with whom I have had encounters over the years.  They all know each other!  Teresa T.  had passed away many years ago.  The man said he knows of her legacy and he knows her husband.

I stated that Teresa had taught me a lot about the Old Testament Scriptures.  However, when the subject of the Trinity came up it was obvious that we had strong disagreement.  I added that Matthew 28:19 tells us that Jesus specifically stated that we are to go and make disciples, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.  The original language in Aramaic reveals that Jesus used the singular version of "name."  He didn't say, 'in the names.'  Therefore, we have evidence of the Triune nature of God.  The fact that Jesus used the terms "and of the Son; and of the Holy Spirit" separately from his reference to God the Father reiterates that they are three Persons in one Godhead.

Mat 28:19

“Go therefore fn and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(28:19) M-Text omits therefore.


The Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that believing in the Trinity is paganism.  They do not agree with the concept that God can be three Persons in One.  They think that believing in the triune nature of God is believing in three different gods.

Interestingly enough, the man pulled out his cell phone and went to an app for JW's.  He checked the concordance-like site and agreed that Jesus did use the singular term "name" in the Matthew 28:19 verse.  But he then added that the JW's have an explanation for that.

I briefly told him of my journey from Catholicism to becoming a born again Christian.  Then, I told him that I have been a student of Bible study for over 25 years.  He said that he has studied [his version] of the Bible for many years and appreciates meeting Christians who have done the same.

We both knew that we would not end up studying together.  But I urged him to seek out more information regarding the triune nature of God.  I encouraged him to do a computer search for D. James Kennedy's expose' on the Trinity.  It's a classic!  I also shared that there is scientific evidence of the triune nature of God within Creation. 

Talk Wisdom's previous posts about this topic:

Understanding the Trinity

The Trinity All Around You

Excerpt:


In Dr. D. James Kennedy's booklet entitled "Understanding the Trinity; Evidence for God in Three Persons," Dr. Kennedy describes that the universe itself explains the Trinity.

Dr. Nathan Wood, formerly president of Gordon College of Theology and Missions, wrote a magnificent book, The Secret of the Universe. In it he spells out for us the result of years of searching in the natural realm for some kind of analogy that was correct for the Trinity. He finally came up with the universe itself.

It is so simple.

It is right there in front of us.

We can never get away from it.

It is always there.

We ought to see it very clearly.

He points out that any man who manufactures anything or makes anything with his hands is going to inevitably leave his fingerprints upon it. If you were to create a table or chair or something in your workshop, it would contain your fingerprints.

Dr. Wood says that the universe is covered with fingerprints of the Trinity because it was made by the Triune God. The Bible says that the Father created the universe, the Son created the universe, and the Holy Spirit created the universe - the Triune God created the universe.

What does Dr. Wood mean by that?

Well, there are fingerprints everywhere. We just don't see them.

I would suppose that there are literally millions of fingerprints in this very sanctuary. Did you see any today? Not a one. We are blind as a bat when it comes to fingerprints. We just don't see them. First of all, we're not looking for them. Now you might see them at home on a mirror or something like that, but ordinarily, we don't see fingerprints. However, if a detective were to come in here and begin to dust the wood on the pew in front of you, he would find thousands of them. So let's put on our Sherlock Holmes cap, get out our dusting brush, and see if we can see the fingerprints of Him who made all things.

What does the universe consist of?

If you were to ask a scientist, he would tell you it consists of space, time, and matter. Now amazing to tell, we find all of those three things everywhere in the universe - not that we have a universe where some of them exist sometimes and not at other times. It is also true that each of the triune parts of the universe is, in itself, triune.

SPACE

Let us look at each one of them. For example, consider space. What is space composed of? It is composed of length and breadth and height. Always. There is nothing you could name that is not composed of all three of those things. If you were to simply take a pencil and draw a line on a piece of paper, it would have length, it would have a little bit of width, and if you looked in a powerful microscope, you would discover it has quite a bit of height. You can't see it with your naked eye; however, it's always there.

Something that I think is amazing about this is that God always consists of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit - not one or the other. It is not a piece of the pie; it's the whole thing, always. Imagine a square block that a child would play with. Draw a picture of it in three dimensions. Then you could take that picture, and with a pencil and using all length, you could make a bunch of lines and fill in that entire block with nothing but length. I have done that sometimes in fancy lettering. Maybe some of you have as well. Or you could take the same block and make the whole thing out of width, or out of height. The fact of the matter is that it is all length, it's all breadth, it's all height all of the time. That's a perfect illustration of the Trinity.

TIME

Or take the matter of time. Of what does time consist? Obviously, it consists of the past, the present, and the future - those three. Any time we have ever known in this universe always consists of those three. Usually we have the idea that we come out of the past, that that really is first, because that is where we came from. The fact of the matter is, time comes from the future, and we meet it head on.

For example, today, yesterday was called tomorrow, and now it's today. A week ago it was called next week, and now it is today. A year ago, it was called next year. So as time approaches us and we move through it, that is what always happens. Anything is first in the future, then in the present, and then it disappears into the past. That is the way time always works. That in itself is an amazing story when you examine it carefully. Past, present, and future.

Dr. Nathan R. Wood gives a fascinating quote that is so remarkable I would like to share it with you. I would challenge you to try to see if you can follow his drift.

He is going to give a long paragraph. Then he is going to give it again, only this time he is simply going to change four words. These four words are "time," "future," "present," and "past". They are going to be changed into "God," "Father," "Son," and "Holy Spirit."

You are going to find out something some of you never knew before - that time, which you live by, which you look at constantly in the way of clocks you wind up every day, and which you make your lives run by, is an incredible illustration of the divine Trinity.
(Note: To make this paragraph easier to read, I will post it in a prose format).


Read carefully:

"The Future is the source.

The Future is unseen, unknown, except as it continually embodies itself and makes itself visible in the Present.

The Present is what we see, and hear, and know.

It is ceaselessly embodying the Future, day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment. It is perpetually revealing the Future, hitherto invisible.

The Future is logically first, but not chronologically.

For the Present exists as long as Time exists and was in the absolute beginning of Time.

The Present has existed as long as Time has existed.

Time acts through and in the Present.

It makes itself visible only in the Present.

The Future acts and reveals itself through the Present.

It is through the Present that Time, that the Future, enters into union with human life.

Time and humanity meet and unite in the Present.

It is the Present that Time, that the Future, becomes a part of human life, and so is born and lives and dies in human life.

The Past in turn comes from the Present.

We cannot say that it embodies the Present.

On the contrary, Time in issuing from the Present into the Past becomes invisible again.

The Past does not embody the Present. Rather it proceeds silently, endlessly, invisibly from it...

The Present therefore comes out from the invisible Future.

The Present perpetually and ever-newly embodies the Future in visible, audible, livable form; and returns again into invisible Time in the Past.

The Past acts invisibly.

It continually influences us with regard to the Present.

It casts light upon the Present.

That is its great function.

It helps us to live in the Present which we know, and with reference to the Future which we expect to see.

"That is an exact description of the way time operates. It is a perfect analogy. I'm using "analogy" not in the common sense of the word that something is like something or a simile or metaphor, but in the mathematical meaning of the word, which means it is an exact replica as far as every line, every angle, every corner is concerned.

SUBSTITUTE FOUR WORDS

Now let us replace the words. "Time" is replaced by "God"; the "Future" by the "Father"; the "Present" by the "Son"; and the "Past" by the "Holy Spirit" (every word the same but these four). You will see that perfect analogy and you will see the divine Trinity you have been swimming in all of your life!

"The Father is the source [every word the same, but those four].

The Father is unseen except as he continually embodies Himself and makes Himself visible in the Son.

The Son is what we see, and hear, and know.

He is ceaselessly embodying the Father, day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment.

He is perpetually revealing the Father, hitherto invisible.

The Father is logically first, but not chronologically, For the Son exists as long as God exists, and was in the absolute beginning of God.

The Son has existed as long as God has existed.

God acts through and in the Son.

He makes Himself visible only in the Son.

The Father acts and reveals Himself through the Son.

It is through the Son that God, that the Father, enters into union with human life.

God and humanity meet and unite in the Son.

It is in the Son that God, that the Father, becomes a part of human life, and so is born and lives and dies in human life.

The Spirit in turn comes from the Son.

We cannot say that He embodies the Son.

On the contrary God, in issuing from the Son into the Spirit, becomes invisible again.

The Spirit does not embody the Son.

Rather He proceeds silently, endlessly, invisibly from Him...

The Son therefore comes out from the invisible Father.

The Son perpetually and ever-newly embodies the Father in visible, audible, livable form, and returns into invisible God in the Spirit.

The Spirit acts invisibly.

He continually influences us with regard to the Son.

He casts light upon the Son.

That is His great function.

He helps us to live in the Son whom we know and with reference to the Father whom we expect to see."

That, my friends, is an exact mathematical analogy that each of the portions of the triunity of the universe are in themselves triune."

Our Creator is so awesome!! He reveals Himself all around us....in the existence of the universe He created!

*******

What We Believe...

*  About God:

God is the Creator and Ruler of the universe.  He has eternally existed in three persons:  the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  These three are co-equal and are one God.

 

Genesis 1:26-27; Genesis 3:22; Psalms 90:2; Matthew 28:19; 1 Peter 1:2; 2 Corinthians 13:14

 

 

 

* About Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ is the Son of God.  He is co-equal with the Father.  Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered Himself as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all by dying on a cross.  He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death.  He ascended to Heavens glory and will return again, to earth, to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

 

Matthew 1:22-23; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1-5; John 14:10-30; Hebrews 4:14, 15; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; Romans 1:3,4; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Timothy 6:14,15; Titus 2:13

 

 

 

 

*About The Holy Spirit:

The Holy Spirit is equal with the Father and the Son of God.  He is present in the world to make mankind aware of our need for Jesus Christ.  He also lives in every Christian from the moment of salvation.  He provides the Christian with power for living, understanding of spiritual gifts, and guidance in doing what is right.  The Christian's responsibility is to seek and to live under His will daily.

 

2 Corinthians 3:17; John 16:7-13; John 14:16,17; Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 1:13; Galatians 5:25; Ephesians 5:1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sharing the Triune Nature of God

HT:  james2.com


Late yesterday morning while walking my dogs back to our home, I found a man with a shoulder sack and his daughter standing at my front door.  I thought, "Let me guess...either they are Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons!"  Well, I was correct.  They were Jehovah's Witnesses (JW's). 

The man said, "Hello, my daughter would like to offer you some information."  Next, the little girl (I would guess she was around 8 years old) started talking about the Watch Tower pamphlets in her hands.  I politely listened to what she had to say,  knowing that I would not be taking the pamphlets.  However, I told her that I was very impressed with how well she briefly articulated what the pamphlets contain.

I have learned over the years that it is best to "cut to the chase" when speaking with JW's.  I looked at her father and stated that I had shared the company of a lovely woman named Teresa back in the 1990's.  She came to my door in her wheelchair, and I didn't have the heart to turn her away.  However, after several weeks of visits, we ended up parting ways when her faith teaching rejected the reality of our triune God. 

The man instantly knew who I was talking about!  This has been a typical reaction of the JW's with whom I have had encounters over the years.  They all know each other!  Teresa T.  had passed away many years ago.  The man said he knows of her legacy and he knows her husband.

I stated that Teresa had taught me a lot about the Old Testament Scriptures.  However, when the subject of the Trinity came up it was obvious that we had strong disagreement.  I added that Matthew 28:19 tells us that Jesus specifically stated that we are to go and make disciples, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.  The original language in Aramaic reveals that Jesus used the singular version of "name."  He didn't say, 'in the names.'  Therefore, we have evidence of the Triune nature of God.  The fact that Jesus used the terms "and of the Son; and of the Holy Spirit" separately from his reference to God the Father reiterates that they are three Persons in one Godhead.

Mat 28:19

“Go therefore fn and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

(28:19) M-Text omits therefore.


The Jehovah's Witnesses are taught that believing in the Trinity is paganism.  They do not agree with the concept that God can be three Persons in One.  They think that believing in the triune nature of God is believing in three different gods.

Interestingly enough, the man pulled out his cell phone and went to an app for JW's.  He checked the concordance-like site and agreed that Jesus did use the singular term "name" in the Matthew 28:19 verse.  But he then added that the JW's have an explanation for that.

I briefly told him of my journey from Catholicism to becoming a born again Christian.  Then, I told him that I have been a student of Bible study for over 25 years.  He said that he has studied [his version] of the Bible for many years and appreciates meeting Christians who have done the same.

We both knew that we would not end up studying together.  But I urged him to seek out more information regarding the triune nature of God.  I encouraged him to do a computer search for D. James Kennedy's expose' on the Trinity.  It's a classic!  I also shared that there is scientific evidence of the triune nature of God within Creation. 

Talk Wisdom's previous posts about this topic:

Understanding the Trinity

The Trinity All Around You

Excerpt:


In Dr. D. James Kennedy's booklet entitled "Understanding the Trinity; Evidence for God in Three Persons," Dr. Kennedy describes that the universe itself explains the Trinity.

Dr. Nathan Wood, formerly president of Gordon College of Theology and Missions, wrote a magnificent book, The Secret of the Universe. In it he spells out for us the result of years of searching in the natural realm for some kind of analogy that was correct for the Trinity. He finally came up with the universe itself.

It is so simple.

It is right there in front of us.

We can never get away from it.

It is always there.

We ought to see it very clearly.

He points out that any man who manufactures anything or makes anything with his hands is going to inevitably leave his fingerprints upon it. If you were to create a table or chair or something in your workshop, it would contain your fingerprints.

Dr. Wood says that the universe is covered with fingerprints of the Trinity because it was made by the Triune God. The Bible says that the Father created the universe, the Son created the universe, and the Holy Spirit created the universe - the Triune God created the universe.

What does Dr. Wood mean by that?

Well, there are fingerprints everywhere. We just don't see them.

I would suppose that there are literally millions of fingerprints in this very sanctuary. Did you see any today? Not a one. We are blind as a bat when it comes to fingerprints. We just don't see them. First of all, we're not looking for them. Now you might see them at home on a mirror or something like that, but ordinarily, we don't see fingerprints. However, if a detective were to come in here and begin to dust the wood on the pew in front of you, he would find thousands of them. So let's put on our Sherlock Holmes cap, get out our dusting brush, and see if we can see the fingerprints of Him who made all things.

What does the universe consist of?

If you were to ask a scientist, he would tell you it consists of space, time, and matter. Now amazing to tell, we find all of those three things everywhere in the universe - not that we have a universe where some of them exist sometimes and not at other times. It is also true that each of the triune parts of the universe is, in itself, triune.

SPACE

Let us look at each one of them. For example, consider space. What is space composed of? It is composed of length and breadth and height. Always. There is nothing you could name that is not composed of all three of those things. If you were to simply take a pencil and draw a line on a piece of paper, it would have length, it would have a little bit of width, and if you looked in a powerful microscope, you would discover it has quite a bit of height. You can't see it with your naked eye; however, it's always there.

Something that I think is amazing about this is that God always consists of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit - not one or the other. It is not a piece of the pie; it's the whole thing, always. Imagine a square block that a child would play with. Draw a picture of it in three dimensions. Then you could take that picture, and with a pencil and using all length, you could make a bunch of lines and fill in that entire block with nothing but length. I have done that sometimes in fancy lettering. Maybe some of you have as well. Or you could take the same block and make the whole thing out of width, or out of height. The fact of the matter is that it is all length, it's all breadth, it's all height all of the time. That's a perfect illustration of the Trinity.

TIME

Or take the matter of time. Of what does time consist? Obviously, it consists of the past, the present, and the future - those three. Any time we have ever known in this universe always consists of those three. Usually we have the idea that we come out of the past, that that really is first, because that is where we came from. The fact of the matter is, time comes from the future, and we meet it head on.

For example, today, yesterday was called tomorrow, and now it's today. A week ago it was called next week, and now it is today. A year ago, it was called next year. So as time approaches us and we move through it, that is what always happens. Anything is first in the future, then in the present, and then it disappears into the past. That is the way time always works. That in itself is an amazing story when you examine it carefully. Past, present, and future.

Dr. Nathan R. Wood gives a fascinating quote that is so remarkable I would like to share it with you. I would challenge you to try to see if you can follow his drift.

He is going to give a long paragraph. Then he is going to give it again, only this time he is simply going to change four words. These four words are "time," "future," "present," and "past". They are going to be changed into "God," "Father," "Son," and "Holy Spirit."

You are going to find out something some of you never knew before - that time, which you live by, which you look at constantly in the way of clocks you wind up every day, and which you make your lives run by, is an incredible illustration of the divine Trinity.
(Note: To make this paragraph easier to read, I will post it in a prose format).


Read carefully:

"The Future is the source.

The Future is unseen, unknown, except as it continually embodies itself and makes itself visible in the Present.

The Present is what we see, and hear, and know.

It is ceaselessly embodying the Future, day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment. It is perpetually revealing the Future, hitherto invisible.

The Future is logically first, but not chronologically.

For the Present exists as long as Time exists and was in the absolute beginning of Time.

The Present has existed as long as Time has existed.

Time acts through and in the Present.

It makes itself visible only in the Present.

The Future acts and reveals itself through the Present.

It is through the Present that Time, that the Future, enters into union with human life.

Time and humanity meet and unite in the Present.

It is the Present that Time, that the Future, becomes a part of human life, and so is born and lives and dies in human life.

The Past in turn comes from the Present.

We cannot say that it embodies the Present.

On the contrary, Time in issuing from the Present into the Past becomes invisible again.

The Past does not embody the Present. Rather it proceeds silently, endlessly, invisibly from it...

The Present therefore comes out from the invisible Future.

The Present perpetually and ever-newly embodies the Future in visible, audible, livable form; and returns again into invisible Time in the Past.

The Past acts invisibly.

It continually influences us with regard to the Present.

It casts light upon the Present.

That is its great function.

It helps us to live in the Present which we know, and with reference to the Future which we expect to see.

"That is an exact description of the way time operates. It is a perfect analogy. I'm using "analogy" not in the common sense of the word that something is like something or a simile or metaphor, but in the mathematical meaning of the word, which means it is an exact replica as far as every line, every angle, every corner is concerned.

SUBSTITUTE FOUR WORDS

Now let us replace the words. "Time" is replaced by "God"; the "Future" by the "Father"; the "Present" by the "Son"; and the "Past" by the "Holy Spirit" (every word the same but these four). You will see that perfect analogy and you will see the divine Trinity you have been swimming in all of your life!

"The Father is the source [every word the same, but those four].

The Father is unseen except as he continually embodies Himself and makes Himself visible in the Son.

The Son is what we see, and hear, and know.

He is ceaselessly embodying the Father, day by day, hour by hour, moment by moment.

He is perpetually revealing the Father, hitherto invisible.

The Father is logically first, but not chronologically, For the Son exists as long as God exists, and was in the absolute beginning of God.

The Son has existed as long as God has existed.

God acts through and in the Son.

He makes Himself visible only in the Son.

The Father acts and reveals Himself through the Son.

It is through the Son that God, that the Father, enters into union with human life.

God and humanity meet and unite in the Son.

It is in the Son that God, that the Father, becomes a part of human life, and so is born and lives and dies in human life.

The Spirit in turn comes from the Son.

We cannot say that He embodies the Son.

On the contrary God, in issuing from the Son into the Spirit, becomes invisible again.

The Spirit does not embody the Son.

Rather He proceeds silently, endlessly, invisibly from Him...

The Son therefore comes out from the invisible Father.

The Son perpetually and ever-newly embodies the Father in visible, audible, livable form, and returns into invisible God in the Spirit.

The Spirit acts invisibly.

He continually influences us with regard to the Son.

He casts light upon the Son.

That is His great function.

He helps us to live in the Son whom we know and with reference to the Father whom we expect to see."

That, my friends, is an exact mathematical analogy that each of the portions of the triunity of the universe are in themselves triune."

Our Creator is so awesome!! He reveals Himself all around us....in the existence of the universe He created!

*******

What We Believe...

*  About God:

God is the Creator and Ruler of the universe.  He has eternally existed in three persons:  the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  These three are co-equal and are one God.

 

Genesis 1:26-27; Genesis 3:22; Psalms 90:2; Matthew 28:19; 1 Peter 1:2; 2 Corinthians 13:14

 

 

 

* About Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ is the Son of God.  He is co-equal with the Father.  Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered Himself as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all by dying on a cross.  He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death.  He ascended to Heavens glory and will return again, to earth, to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

 

Matthew 1:22-23; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1-5; John 14:10-30; Hebrews 4:14, 15; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; Romans 1:3,4; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Timothy 6:14,15; Titus 2:13

 

 

 

 

*About The Holy Spirit:

The Holy Spirit is equal with the Father and the Son of God.  He is present in the world to make mankind aware of our need for Jesus Christ.  He also lives in every Christian from the moment of salvation.  He provides the Christian with power for living, understanding of spiritual gifts, and guidance in doing what is right.  The Christian's responsibility is to seek and to live under His will daily.

 

2 Corinthians 3:17; John 16:7-13; John 14:16,17; Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 1:13; Galatians 5:25; Ephesians 5:1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Crisis? Be Of Good Courage

There is a saying that reads, "We are never certain of courage until we are tested with a crisis."  The American people have been subjected to so many crises via the ObaMARXIST BADministration, that there is no wonder people  see themselves under much stress and pressure, thus, being drained of mental, moral, and even physical strength to deal with it all.

Whenever I feel stressed about all the turmoil and chaos going on in our nation and the world, I reach for my Bible and study the courage passages. 



It helps me to store up my own courage when dealing with everything that is being inflicted upon us, as well as all the lies and corruption being used by this BADministration and their minions who continue to wreak havoc. 

The fact that many in the media of mass deception are complicit in such propaganda makes things even worse.  No one is held accountable for the extremely important scandals that have happened (i.e. Fast and Furious, NSA spying, IRS targeting of Conservatives and TEA Party organization applying for tax exempt status, the Benghazi cover-up, and now the disastrous roll-out of the ObamaSCARE HELLcare debacle); just to name a few.  But don't take my word for it, see for yourself (below)** what an absolute disaster it is!!!

However, when a person from the BADministration tweets out derogatory statements about Valerie Jarrett or Hillary Clinton, he gets fired!  What is wrong with this picture???  Plenty!   See* links below for more about this and other scandals.   But back to the subject at hand in this post.

As Christians, we often need to be reminded of the phrase, "Be of good courage" that is written in seven different Bible verses!  (Numbers 13:20;  Ezra 10:4;  Psalm 27:14;  Psalm 31:24;  and Isaiah 41:6).  It isn't by chance that the phrase appears seven times in Scripture.  The number 7 represents perfection in the Bible.

We are ingrained with courage when we study those verses, as well as while reading others like:  "Be strong and of good courage, do not fear nor be afraid...for the LORD your God, He is the One who goes with you.  He will not leave you nor forsake you."  (See Joshua in Deuteronomy 31 and Joshua 1)

The promises of Jesus Christ, the refuge of our God, and the hope that is in us inspires us to strengthen our resolve to serve the Lord, come what may.



Reference:  Portions of this post adapted from Turning Point Ministries Devotional, November, 2013

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The Ulsterman Report

Hillary Clinton Receives Benghazi Protester’s Public Outrage (VIDEO)

 

Walid Shoebat

U.N. ID’s Egyptian Terror network in Benghazi Attack 

 

 moralmatters.org

Computer expert John McAfee’s indictment of the Obamacare healthcare.gov website

 

Western Journalism.com

Video: ObamaCare is a Trojan Horse for Socialized Medicine

 

GulagBound.com

White House Official Censored and Fired for Airing Opinions Negative to the Administration

 Hat tips to all links.

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MAJOR ID THEFT RISKS - Uncertified Navigators- 700+ Cyber-Squatters Sebelius Admits Incompedence Sebelius Blames Obama 60% of Americans: It's a Joke! WH TO DELAY INDIVIDUAL MANDATE SIX WEEKS

16 MILLION LOSING INSURANCE! Blue Cross Blue Shield Issues Policy Cancellations Feds Tell Blue Cross Blue Shield to Hide Enrollment Numbers More will Lose Insurance Than Sign Up FRAUD: O-care Website Pricing Wrong Fed, Insurers Unite to Screw Us Dems want O-care Delayed Until After Election O-care Obama Speech Fainting Faked! 3 Weeks of Trying: Still Not Registered

HT:  Commieblaster

Making An Impact For Christ in This World

In the comment section of a previous post, I happened to mention that this blog appeared on Technorati's "Top 100 World Blogs" list.  However, our notorious nemesis,  GMpilot,  seemed to object to this because it is also labeled as a political world blog list.

He wrote:

"Oh, congratulations on making Technorati's list...although I find it funny that a blog whose primary goal is “to defend the tenets and values of Biblical Christian faith” has made it onto a list of political blogs!"

My reply regarding that particular point:

About Technorati. They choose to list my blog in several categories. When certain stories get picked up by other sites and traffic increases, my ranking goes up under the particular category that the aggregate site chooses.


Part of defending the tenets and values of Biblical Christian faith involves engaging within the culture. You left out the next sentence in my blog goals:

"We defend our Constitutional Republic and Charters of Freedom, especially when speaking out against destructive social and political issues."

Keeping this brief conversation in mind, I would like to first share a great message, and then a not-so-coincidental encounter.

I ran across a letter that I had received a few months ago from the Truth in Action Ministries.  In that letter, they told of a story about a former Oklahoma County District Attorney named Wes Lane, who saw one of Dr. D. James Kennedy's videos where he pointed into the camera and said, "You can know the purpose of God for your life."  It caught Wes's attention and dramatically changed his world.

The letter continues with Wes Lane quoted:

"Even though I had been walking with God for probably a dozen years or so at that point in time,"  Wes said, "that had not registered with me.  I was assistant district attorney in Oklahoma City, and until then I didn't understand the concept that all of our work is holy."

God used Dr. Kennedy's teaching to help Wes understand that he was not a leader who happened to be a Christian, but a Christian leader assigned by God to a specific sphere of influence --to be, as Jesus commanded, the "salt of the earth"  (Matthew 5:13).

*  Salt is a preservative that keeps food from getting rotten, just as a Christian's influence should preserve decency and morality in the world;

*  Salt stings in a wound, just as a Christian's loving influence should make sin feel uncomfortable;

*  Salt is a source of purification and healing, just as Christians should be a source of comfort and healing for those in distress;

*  Salt makes things taste better, just as the life lived for Christ brings joy to the soul;

*  Salt causes thirst, just as the life of a Christian lived out in the world should make others thirst for the living water that is found only in Christ.

Salt has incredible properties, but none of them are of use if the salt never gets out of the salt shaker!

Christians are to take advantage of the position of influence that God has given us as parents, employees, church leaders, etc. in order to make an impact for Christ in this world!

THAT is precisely why this blog exists.  Without the desire to make an impact for Christ in this world, all that I share regarding religious beliefs, or when applying God's Word to the current cultural and political issues of our time would be futile.  People NEED to see the hope that is in Christ Jesus - for there is no other Name under heaven by which we may be saved!

Act 4:12

“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

I would like to share a story about an encounter that my friend Donna N. and I had after our 2 mile walk on Tuesday afternoon.

I was walking with Donna back to her car when an elderly gentleman rode up on his bike.  He was about 3 parking spaces from where we were.  He yelled out, "Hello."  We waved back and said hi.  He then asked, "Are you two Christian ladies?"  Donna and I looked at each other in amazement, then replied, "yes we are."  The reason that we had this reaction was because Donna was just sharing information about a documentary that she saw on the Discovery Channel that made the claim that all major religions (except Islam) have some sort of triune god in their traditions.  She stated that the number 3 has much significance in the eternal realm as well as here on earth.  Back in 2005 (during the days where I was studying Intelligent Design vs. Evolution), I shared a blog post called The Trinity All Around You.  It is fascinating to see how science reflects the concept of "3's" just as Donna stated in her discussion with me!

Back to the man on the bike.

 As the gentleman got off of his bike and then started lifting it onto the back of his car, he asked us if we would like a copy of his artwork.   Donna and I walked up to him to try and help him with his bike, but he did it on his own.  He told us his name is Phillip.  We introduced ourselves to him.  While he went into his car to get the artwork, we helped strap the bike in place.  He had a folder filled with copies!  He stated that he drew the first drawing (a beautiful portrait of Jesus!) in a college art class. 



The obviously liberal, anti-Christian professor chastised him for choosing something "so religious."  I was not a bit surprised to hear about the professor's reaction.  So typical of the lunatic leftist fringe that wreaks of anti-religious bigotry in colleges these days. 

*Sigh*

The assignment was to draw a picture of something or someone important in your life.  Phillip stated that Jesus IS the most important person in his life!  [Amen!!]

We stood there and chatted for quite a while, learning more about Phillip and his ministry.  He told us that he is 82 years old and has been in ministry for 52 years!  He currently ministers at a church nearby and also to patients in wheelchairs (as well as those suffering from Alzheimers disease) in a nursing home. 

Phillip is fulfilling his calling!  He is being salt and light in this world through his preaching and his artwork! 

He had another picture which showed a mother holding a baby with Jesus "spiritually" behind her.  The paper asks, "Pregnant?  Jesus loves you mother!  He loves your baby very much!  Save his life!"  Of course this is his pro-life message to those who might be considering abortion.  He has this message taped to the inside of the back windshield of his car.

 

There are MANY ways in which Christians can make a positive impact; even when there is chaos and turmoil all around us.  I would encourage all readers to see how God can put your gifts and talents to work, to be both salt and light in this world!

~  Christine

O'Reilly's "Writings" Are More Likely to be Grieving the Holy Spirit of God!

The moment that I first heard that Fox News analyst Bill O'Reilly was writing a book that he decided to entitle,  "Killing Jesus," I KNEW that what he would write would likely go against practically all that is sacred to born-again, Bible believing Christians.

O'Reilly claims to be Catholic, but his stances on many issues go against either the Catholic faith or Christian truth.  For example.  He blindly claims that homosexuality isn't such a big deal; yet, he has seen the huge amount of damage that was done in the Catholic church priest pederasty scandal.

I was waiting for the first review and/or commentary about the book to come out.  Today, I noticed a post over at Now The End Begins: Bill O’Reilly Wants To Destroy Your Faith In Jesus And The Bible. Just based on what is shared there, I would have to agree with the writer at that blog.

Excerpt:

“But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time…” Jude 1

 

Fox News personality Bill O’Reilly does not believe that the bible is true or trustworthy, and in his new book “Killing Jesus”, he explains why. O’Reilly also says that, after casting doubt on the entire New Testament and mocking the words of Jesus, that the “Holy Spirit inspired him to write it”.

Imagine that.


Though he used the New Testament’s four Gospels as source material, he left out parts he doesn’t believe happened as written. For instance, Jesus didn’t say, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do” from the cross, the Catholic O’Reilly maintains. It wouldn’t have been physically possible, he said.

“You die on a cross from being suffocated,” he said. “You can hardly breathe. We believe Jesus said that, but we don’t believe he said it on the cross because nobody could have heard it.”

People have a right to take the Bible literally, he said, but in the case of “Killing Jesus,” he was trying to be historically accurate. He never says in the book that Jesus was the Son of God because his book is not intended to be religious.

“So is this the Gospel according to Bill?” asked “60 Minutes” correspondent Norah O’Donnell.
“This is best available evidence according to Bill,” O’Reilly responded.
 
The most important thing he learned while writing the book was that Jesus of Nazareth became the most famous human being who ever lived, yet he had no infrastructure. He had no government, no public relations expert, no money and no structure, O’Reilly said.

“It’s never been done.”

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While the book isn’t religious, O’Reilly is. He says he was inspired to write “Killing Jesus” by the Holy Spirit. He says he just woke up in the middle of the night and thought, “Killing Jesus.” 

Asked by O’Donnell why the Holy Spirit would mark him as “the chosen one,” O’Reilly denied any such title. Instead, he said, he is “just one of many who have been given the gift. I can write and I can bloviate on TV.”

The Holy Spirit of God does NOT tell people things that are in direct or even indirect conflict with what is written in God's Word!  I don't know just whom or what was "inspiring" O'Reilly to write such a book; but from what he has said in the interview and through the posting at the blog link, it appears to me that O'Reilly's "writings" are more likely to be grieving the Holy Spirit of God!

The father of lies whom Jesus warned us about is wreaking more and more havoc in this chaotic world; as well as confusion and disorder within the souls of men for the distinct purpose of ruining them. 

Jhn 8:44

“You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

Satan particularly likes to use influential men [like O'Reilly] who are powerful, visible, and wealthy in order to make others succumb to his goal to do evil and destroy men's souls.

Jesus told us:

Mat 16:26

“For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

O'Reilly has proven himself to be an arrogant fool.  Why?  Because he has shown to believe the lies from the father of lies and then creates a book in order to make money off of the lies.  Such a thing is truly disgusting, belligerent, and disgracefully heretical.    But like any other false teacher, his deeds will be exposed.   The true believers who know Jesus Christ, follow His Word through Bible reading and study will not be fooled or silent.   We just have more work to do in order help those who are caught up in the confusion.

For the record, here is what Bible-believing Christians profess.  How do I know this?  Because of the truth provided in the Scriptures listed under each section of commentary.

What We Believe...

*  About God:

God is the Creator and Ruler of the universe.  He has eternally existed in three persons:  the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  These three are co-equal and are one God.

Genesis 1:26-27; Genesis 3:22; Psalms 90:2; Matthew 28:19; 1 Peter 1:2; 2 Corinthians 13:14
 

 

*About Humankind:

We are made in the spiritual image of God, to be like him in character.  We are the supreme object of God's creation.  Although humankind has tremendous potential for good, we are marred by an attitude of disobedience toward God, called "sin."  This attitude separates us from God.

Genesis 1:27; Psalms 8:3-6; Isaiah 53:6; Romans 3:23; Isaiah 59:1,2
 

 

*About Eternity:

We all were created to exist forever.  We will either exist eternally in union with God through forgiveness and salvation or separated from God by sin.  Heaven is the place of eternal union and eternal life with God.  The eternal separation from God is called Hell.

John 3:16; Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:15; (Hell)

Matthew 25:41; Revelation 21:27 (Heaven)
 

 

* About Jesus Christ:

Jesus Christ is the Son of God.  He is co-equal with the Father.  Jesus lived a sinless human life and offered Himself as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all by dying on a cross.  He arose from the dead after three days to demonstrate His power over sin and death.  He ascended to Heavens glory and will return again, to earth, to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

Matthew 1:22-23; Isaiah 9:6; John 1:1-5; John 14:10-30; Hebrews 4:14, 15; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4; Romans 1:3,4; Acts 1:9-11; 1 Timothy 6:14,15; Titus 2:13
 

 

*About Salvation:

Salvation is a gift from God to mankind.  We can never make up for our sin by self-improvement or good works.  Only by trusting in Jesus Christ as God's offer of forgiveness can we be saved from sin's penalty.  Eternal life begins the moment we receive Jesus Christ into our life by faith.

Romans 6:23; Ephesians 2:8,9; John 14:6; John 1:12; Titus 3:5; Galatians 3:26; Romans 5:1
 

 

*About The Holy Spirit:

The Holy Spirit is equal with the Father and the Son of God.  He is present in the world to make mankind aware of our need for Jesus Christ.  He also lives in every Christian from the moment of salvation.  He provides the Christian with power for living, understanding of spiritual gifts, and guidance in doing what is right.  The Christian's responsibility is to seek and to live under His will daily.

2 Corinthians 3:17; John 16:7-13; John 14:16,17; Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 1:13; Galatians 5:25; Ephesians 5:1
 

 

*About Spiritual Gifts:

The gifts of the Holy Spirit are available to each believer in Jesus Christ, allowing for greater intimacy with God and power for accomplishing His work in our world today.  We believe that God, the giver of gifts, gives severally as he wills, and with emphasis on growing maturity in Jesus Christ.  These gifts are revealed and then can be used for His purposes and powerfully influence and affect our world for Christ.

1Corinthians 12:4-7, 11, 17, 29, 30
 

 

*About The Bible:

The Bible is God's Word to all mankind.  It was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit.  It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs and living.  Because it is inspired by God, it is truth without any mixture of error.

2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20, 21; 2 Timothy 1:13; Psalms 12:6; 119:105, 160; Proverbs 30:5

 

Hat tip: Now The End Begins

Secular Idolatry of the "Coexist" Idea

There is an ongoing discussion regarding the topic of discrimination in the comment section of my previous post. You may want to read through them.  

When it comes to this particular subject matter, those who want to push the radical homosexual agenda on people simply think that tolerance is a one way street.  Their intolerance towards those who hold to Biblical teachings, strong religious beliefs, personal rights, and free speech rights do not exist in their push to not only normalize homosexual behavior, same-sex marriage, and the teaching of homosexuality to kids as young as 6 years old in public schools; but they also use the term to purposely target and attack Christians. 

Why? 


I think that it is because they want to criminalize Christianity.   It's at the point where they don't even try to hide their true intentions anymore!  The evidence of their goal to criminalize the practice of the Christian faith is all over the place these days! 

As was mentioned in my previous post, the truth is that the gay manifesto's goal is to establish a sodomite despotism.

It is an underlying goal and part of the nebulously entitled "coexist" movement.  Have you seen these bumper stickers on cars where you live?  They are a familiar sight here in California.  Saw one on a car on the freeway yesterday - it was plastered on the bumper right next to the Obama "2012' sticker.  You know - the one with "O" filled in with the commie artwork.

I have previously written about this "coexist" mantra in past posts.

Excerpts below from my former post on the subject "coexist."

A "Coexist" message made up with differing religious symbols that attempts to combine religious beliefs (which, in some cases are polar opposites of each other) cannot portray an honest type of message.

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Another great read related to this subject:

Albert Mohler: Two Rival Religions?

Excerpts:

"The chief modern rival of Christianity is 'liberalism,'" Machen asserted. "Modern liberalism, then, has lost sight of the two great presuppositions of the Christian message--the living God and the fact of sin," he argued. "The liberal doctrine of God and the liberal doctrine of man are both diametrically opposite to the Christian view. But the divergence concerns not only the presuppositions of the message, but also the message itself."

Kainz offers a crucial insight here.  He is suggesting that one of the most important factors in the nation's cultural divide is that persons on both sides are deeply committed to their own creeds and worldviews--even if on one side those creeds are secular.

"This explains why talking about abortion or same-sex 'marriage,' for example, with certain liberals is usually futile. It is like trying to persuade a committed Muslim to accept Christ. Because his religion forbids it, he can only do so by converting from Islam to Christianity; he cannot accept Christ as long as he remains firmly committed to Islam. So it is with firmly committed liberals: Their 'religion' forbids any concessions to the 'conservative' agenda, and as long as they remain committed to their secular ideology, it is futile to hope for such concessions from them."

No wonder liberals hate true Christian believers so much! It competes with their secular IDOLATRY; and as Mohler states, "it is futile to hope for such concessions from them." Kind of destroys the idea of that "Coexist" propaganda...doesn't it?

The next segment explains the ObamaFRAUD mess and why he and his cohorts push their radical ideology upon an unwilling populace:

Looking back over the last century, Kainz argues that Marxism and ideological Liberalism have functioned as religious systems for millions of individuals. Looking specifically at Marxism, Kainz argues that the Marxist religion had dogmas, canonical scriptures, priests, theologians, ritualistic observances, parochial congregations, heresies, hagiography, and even an eschatology. Marxism's dogmas were its core teachings, including economic determinism and the "dictatorship of the proletariat." Its canonical scriptures included the writings of Marx, Lenin, and Mao Tse Tung. Its priests were those guardians of Marxist purity who functioned as the ideological theorists of the movement. Its ritualistic observances included actions ranging from workers' strikes to mass rallies. The eschatology of Marxism was to be realized in the appearance of "Communist man" and the new age of Marxist utopia.

Similarly, Kainz argues that modern secular liberalism includes its own dogmas. Among these are the beliefs "that mankind must overcome religious superstition by means of Reason; that empirical science can and will eventually answer all the questions about the world and human values that were formerly referred to traditional religion or theology; and that the human race, by constantly invalidating and disregarding hampering traditions, can and will achieve perfectibility."

Sorry ObamaFRAUD and cohorts - what you clueless people up there in Washington D.C. are doing is RUINING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!!

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Albert Mohler expresses the reasons why the liberal/progressive/socialist/communist ideologues can NEVER tolerate or peacefully coexist with Christians.  Their propaganda may work on some unsuspecting people or groups, but they don't fool those who belong to Christ and follow genuine biblical Christianity.

The "coexist" propaganda is bad advice when one thinks about eternity.  Jesus Christ said He is THE way to eternal life and no one comes to God except through Him (John 14:6). The apostle Peter said there is no other name under heaven by which we can be saved (Acts 4:12).

The advice from this Christian blog author is to invest your whole heart in Jesus! You see, being single-minded (while necessarily discriminating against all other religions) is the key to new life in Christ! It is why Christians, in particular, are targeted through man-made laws which are meant to not only challenge our faith, but to crush our faith and stall any influence in this world.  They are ultimately meant to even go so far as to criminalize, one by one, each and every tenet of our faith.

Some people refuse to take God's warnings seriously.  They doubt God's sovereignty and question whether or not He will really judge people who reject His offer of salvation.  Well, Jesus seemed to think so!  His words, recorded in the Gospel of John, are that the judgment of God will rest on all who reject God's gift of forgiveness and eternal life.  It's not a threat, but it is a warning.  And it's a warning that I think every person should heed!

Accepting the gift of salvation puts one on the road to a new life in Christ.  There is nothing better in this world!  So don't let the naysayers who spew garbage through the propaganda of one-way "tolerance" of aberrant behaviors, or the "coexist" gurus who use the symbol in order to steer people away from the saving grace of Jesus Christ catch you in the snare of their not-so-veiled trap.

Hat tip: Albert Mohler blog

The Lie That Homosexual "Marriage" Is Acceptable to God

During a wonderful walk on a beautiful day at the beach yesterday, my good friend and I got in a discussion about "gay" marriage, civil unions, and traditional one man and one woman marriage.  We both shared the fact that we know Christians - some who even appear to be very devout - who have fallen for the lie that homosexual marriage is acceptable.  Apparently, they choose to no longer acknowledge that homosexual marriage (and behavior) is unacceptable to God and goes against His laws.  God created marriage.  The definition has always been the union of one man and one woman.  Period! 

In fact, the reprobate idea of homosexual "marriage" is not new.  It is ancient!  Recall that Solomon tells us, "there is nothing new under the sun."

When Jesus was asked what the signs would be of his return, he stated:

Mat 24:37 “But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

Luk 17:26 “And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:

Luk 17:28 “Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built;
 
Luk 17:29 “but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

Luk 17:30 “Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.


What did "the Days of Noah" and "the Days of Lot" have in common?  Besides unbelief, moral depravity, murder, evil, and general sinful behavior, they both had the sin of homosexuality in common.


My friend had not heard of the ancient Jewish writings that shared the fact that contracts of  "men marrying men" and "women marrying women" happened back before Noah and the flood.  It was one big reason why the flood occurred.  Therefore, I sent her an email with links to blog posts that shared this information.

 I wrote:

As always, I enjoyed our walk, talk and lunch together today!

I told you about the evidence given by Jewish Rabbis in the Babylonian Talmud, but there were also other writings that shared information about "men marrying men," and "women marrying women" in Noah's time.


The following  is a link to one of  the best Talk Wisdom blog posts about this topic  that I wrote back in 2011.  It includes additional information from The Midrash Rabbah Genesis - which  is a specific form of rabbinic literature of
ancient Judaism commentaries of the Hebrew Scriptures.

As In The Days of Noah Revisited [Note:  broken link corrected]

The following is a "search" at my blog with several posts about this topic all in a row:
 
Talk Wisdom Blog Search: Days of Noah [Note:  broken link corrected]

There are many additional links within the posts from other writers who have done extensive research on this topic.  Just thought I would share this with you since we were talking about it today!

~  Chris

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In addition to this, I revisited a post over at GCMWatch (Gay Christian Movement Watch) that displays the utter depravity of some gay behavior affirming churches.

GCMWatch: MCC Clerics Demonize Jesus

Note - There is a warning regarding the content included at the links within the post:

WARNING: Read this post only if you want irrefutable proof of the depth of depravity currently saturating the gay christian movement.

I have often mentioned that the term "gay" always precedes the term "Christian" in the movement as a whole;  as well as when it is written in the description of the churches and even the individuals who self-identify as such.  Why is that?

Jesus told us that "no one can serve two masters."

Mat 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

Luk 16:13 “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”

The second sentence in these verses directly discusses the inability of servants of Christ serving both God and mammon (money).  However, it is not only money that people can choose to serve ahead of Christ - it can be ANY master.  And in the "gay Christian movement," the behavior of the individuals trumps Christ, God's Holy Word, God's Laws, and Christ's admonition to "leave your life of sin" (which he said to the woman caught in adultery).

Jhn 8:11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and[fn] sin no more.”
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Notice that Christ did not condemn her (because those who were about to stone her had to drop their stones when Christ said, "if any of you are without sin, cast the first stone.")

Now, I have been accused at this blog of figuratively "throwing stones" at people who self-identify as gay.  Nothing could be further from the truth!  God wants ALL to come to salvation through Jesus Christ's sacrificial death at the cross for the forgiveness and remission of sins.  However, those who celebrate a sinful lifestyle right along with people who haven't repented of such sin, are allowing them to miss being reconciled back unto God.  Which is more egregious?

Let's take a physical example.  What if you knew of someone who was about to jump off the top of a tall building because someone convinced them "you will surely not die?"  What if your excuse was that you didn't want to offend their sensibilities on the subject?  Therefore,  you supported their decision to go ahead with the act.  Who in their right mind would call such a warning offensive?  It's the same when it comes to spiritual matters. 

The book of Jude tells us how difficult it can be to help pull someone "out of the fire" of sinful behavior, but it is the most compassionate thing to do despite the fact that many will curse you for attempting to do so!  Being uncomfortable in this world is the life of a true Christian.  Jesus told us, "in this life you [we] will have trouble.  But take heart!  For I [He] has overcome the world!"  He also told us that "He is not of this world."  So therefore, because we have made the commitment to belong to Him, we are not of this world either!  He told us that the unsaved will hate us, because they hated Him first!

All that we can do is share the TRUTH with the unsaved.  The Holy Spirit of God (through each human act of confession and repentance of sin and the request of each individual for forgiveness through Christ's sacrificial act of saving grace at the cross) will indwell the heart of a new believer and lead him/her to a new life in Christ!  The old sin-filled self gradually goes away (called sanctification) and the new life within the believer WANTS to sin no more and please God!

Well, once again I have said my peace on this issue.  There will inevitably be people who will vehemently disagree and call me a bigot, hateful, homophobic...you name it...because they do not know the Living Word of God - Jesus Christ, or the written Word of God - the Bible.  Plus, it is likely that they have not accepted God's gift of salvation so that they can spend eternity with God in heaven.

One more link to share.  It was a post I did as a reaction to GCMWatch: MCC Clerics Demonize Jesus.

Talk Wisdom: The Spiritual Oblivion of the Reprobate Mind.

Excerpt:

The term "oblivion" is certainly a fascinating word. At the end of this post, I have included several of Dictionary.com's definitions of the word.

It is interesting to note the following fact, which is mentioned in the third source below:

It [the term, oblivion] has lost its original sense of "no longer aware or mindful," however, and now means simply "unaware" (1862). Properly should be used with to, not of.
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

Sin and reprobation of the mind can lead to a state of spiritual oblivion that knows no bounds. This was my thought after reading about the absolute depravity of a person named Robert Goss who masquerades as a reverend. The idolatry, brokenness and demonic strongholds in this man's life are most evident in Pastor DL Foster's post called, MCC Clerics Demonize Jesus.
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Look at the NLT version of verse Jeremiah 25:7

"But you would not listen to me," says the Lord. "You made me furious by worshiping your idols, bringing on yourselves all the disasters you now suffer.

We know what this man's idol is. This man's thought life is so far from God it's astounding.

The Proverb verses tell us how important it is to keep God's commandments. The two brilliant statements from our Lord (in bold and italics here) can be attributed towards identifying Mr. Goss as a false convert. At the same time, the words absolutely destroy his reprobate-thinking theology:

Pro 3:1 My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:


Pro 4:4 He taught me also, and said unto me, Let thine heart retain my words: keep my commandments, and live.


Pro 7:2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.


Jhn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.


Jhn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


What does God's Word tell us about our thought life?

Phl 4:4   Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!

Phl 4:5   Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.

Phl 4:6   Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;

Phl 4:7   and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Phl 4:8   Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy--meditate on these things.

Philippians 4:4-8 NKJV

In conclusion, this illustrates just one reason why Jesus told us that he did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. If Jesus came to abolish the law, then we could live in any morally relativistic (or morally reprehensible way as the corruption of Mr. Goss shows us) way we so choose.

But we steadfastly know that Jesus came to fulfill the law, not abolish it. Therefore, His statement, "If you love me, keep my commandments" flies in the face of the gay Christian reprobate theologians who choose to be "no longer aware or mindful" of what God's Word teaches. Scripture will always condemn and expose false prophets, teachers, and theologians like Mr. Goss. And the depravity of their minds will continue to expose the spiritual oblivion that they choose to reside in.

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