Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Typical Propaganda [Update]

Hello again people. I have been dealing with a lot of important family matters that have needed my immediate attention. However, while eating lunch I turned on Shep Smith's show on Fox News and heard about the Holocaust Museum shooting. The next thing I hear is Smith stating that he gets, "lots of crazy emails" from people. He read one on the air (which, btw, had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust Museum shooting) which mentioned that so many in the Lamestream Media refuse to discuss the Obama birth certificate controversy. The email letter writer also mentioned that Obama is a Marxist.

THAT is what Smith thinks is "crazy?"

What about all the pending lawsuits against Obama and others regarding the natural born citizen clause in our Constitution?

Why isn't the birth certificate (COLB) that Obama refuses to show and has spent a million dollars hiding important?

The fact that his father is a British subject that was born in Kenya and never even became a U.S. Citizen questions whether or not Obama was eligible to be president in the first place!

How about the non-release of all the papers Obama refuses to show the public?

These are all legitimate concerns. Shep Smith sounds like a hired shill of the ObamaBorg Bots!

Then, a Talk Wisdom criticizing commenter wrote the following in a comment:


Ken McKnight said...
Dr. Tiller gunned down by a white right-wing anti-abortion extremist. Now the Holocaust Museum shot up by a white right-wing ex-veteran extremist. Boy, that Homeland Security report is looking more and more prescient every day, isn't it?
June 10, 2009 12:49:00 PM PDT


My response:

Christinewjc said...
I could be incorrect about this, but it has been my experience that Holocaust deniers and Jew haters are typically left-wing (anti-Bible/God/Jesus) extremists. But you won't hear that from the Lamestream media.

The abortion provider killing is anathema to biblical Christian views and actually harms the pro-life movement. As usual, the pro-abortion leftist advocates (like Ken did, here) use such a terrible incident [to spew propaganda] and advance their own political agenda by incorrectly blaming all who legitimately and legally pursue pro-life advocacy.

June 10, 2009 1:08:00 PM PDT

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This morning, I happened to read a few messages from "God's Little Devotional Book for Moms." My daughter bought that book for me years ago. Here are some really good sayings that refute abortion as being anything else but murder.


"God sends children for another purpose than merely to keep up the race -- to enlarge our hearts, to make us unselfish, and full of kindly sympathies and affections..."


It is hard to think up a more selfish act than abortion.

Here's another:


Children add another dimension to our lives -- one that focuses on someone else besides ourselves.


And, a great Bible verse:

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 1 John 3:18

The vicious act of murdering someone - whether it is the murder of a helpless child in the womb or the attempted murder at the Holocaust Museum is anathema to true biblical Christianity. When Ken wrote the term "right-wing," he was including many Christians who hold to the pro-life position; but would NEVER kill another person for the cause. As I wrote in my comment to him - such heinous acts harm the pro-life cause!

The following devotional really hits the nail on the head when it comes to the liberal leftist ideology that would allow for the killing of children in the womb to be "legal" and "celebrated" as it is by the typical pro-abortion advocate.


A professor in a world-acclaimed medical school once posed this medical situation--and ethical problem--to his students: "Here's the family history: The father has syphilis. The mother has TB. They already have had four children. The first is blind. The second had died. The fourth has TB. Now the mother is pregnant again. The parents come to you for advice. They are willing to have an abortion, if you decide they should. What do you say?"

The students gave various individual opinion, and then the professor asked them to break into small groups for "consultation." All of the groups came back to report that they would recommend abortion.


Congratulations," the professor said. "You just took the life of Beethoven!"

A woman helps create the body of her child, and as her child grows, she nurtures its emotions and mind. Only God, however, can create the child's eternal soul. A soul must have a body on this earth. A body has a soul. Both God and mother are partners in the creation of a baby from the moment of conception.

No privilege is greater than the privilege of creating another human being. And no act requires greater faith!

For Thou didst form my inward parts; Thou didst weave me in my mother's womb. Psalm 139:13 NAS

"Every mother has the breathtaking privilege of sharing with God on the creation of new life. She helps bring into existence a soul that will endure for all eternity."


Source: God's Little Devotional Book for Moms; by Honor Books, Inc., 1995, 2001.


Hat Tip:

Gateway Pundit

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Update: It appears that I was right about the shooter being a left-wing Nazi type hater:

RepubX: Liberals: Holocaust Shooting Right Wing Hate

Excerpt:
Something doesn't seem right here, pardon the pun. The instantaneous, collective kneejerk from liberal pundits to blame the Holocaust Museum shooting on "right wing hate" stinks. It's as if this is a preemptive strike to cover something that may soon be revealed about them…

I don't think you can deny that there is a rising climate of right wing hate, a lot of it directed at Obama. You and I go way back to the beginning of the campaign and the level of craziness. He's a secret Muslim. He hates America. He wasn't born here. Now this guy, Von Brunn, he's, he, he was one of the birthers. He didn't believe in Obama's birth certificate and he was constantly online agitating about that.
— Joan Walsh, Salon.com, on Hardball


No wonder Walsh works for Salon. There are reports that Von Brunn was a liberal "9/11 Truther" who hated "neocons", Bush and McCain specifically. Inconvenient truth, and I won't waste a "bonehead" on her.


And, these final points reveal the absolute hypocrisy of the leftist extremist propaganda and lies being told:

Go to the liberal blogs and see who holds the title on death wishes for their political and ideological opponents.

And it would seem to me that if you were to add up the numbers, you would probably find the majority of vocal, public anti-semitism on college campuses, and we all know who runs them….

From blackandright.com


Yep....

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Also see:

Gateway Pundit: Crazed Holocaust Museum Killer... Hates Bush, McCain, Neocons

13 comments:

Ken McKnight said...

The aborted fetus could just as easily have been Adolf Hitler, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Ed Gein, John Wayne Gacy or any number of other monsters.

Christinewjc said...

Ken,

Please take "The Good Test."

If you pass it, then your comment can stand.

If not, then come back and confess to readers here why you now realize that your comment is not a feasible argument.

Ken McKnight said...

I took it, but I don't believe in God or Heaven so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to get out of it. I don't see what it has to do with my comment (which was not an argument, by the way, but merely an observation). Is what I said not true? My only point was that if you say an aborted fetus could have grown to be a great genius, it is equally likely that it could have been a sociopath, and by destroying it you may have inadvertently saved hundreds or thousands of other lives. Is that not a fair statement?

As I understand it, from your point of view no human being could pass "The Good Test." Am I right?

Ken McKnight said...

From the Washington Post story about the Holocaust Museum shooter: "He also appears to be the author of a recent Internet posting suggesting that President Obama's background is being hidden from the public." Birds of a feather. . .

Christinewjc said...

Ken,

About your first comment. You are correct. If people were completely honest, they would realize that they could never pass "The Good Test."

Jesus Christ did, however. He is our Savior, Lord and King - the sinless Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.

Just because you don't happen to believe in him - doesn't mean that he did not accomplish the goal of redemption, salvation and forgiveness of sin for repentant believers.

The fact that we are all sinners in need of the Savior negates your "observation" that would argue for the killing of babies in the womb. It is a non sequitur - a type of logical fallacy.

The truth is, as sinners - we all deserve to die. That is the penalty for sin. However, in God's mercy, he sent His Son - to be the propitiation for our sins. His shed blood on the cross and sacrificial death bridged the gap between Holy God and sinful man. Christ's resurrection from the dead (a fact of history) proved that he is who he said he is in Scripture - the Savior of the world.

Of course, as you have stated - this is meaningless to you - personally. That's truly a shame and unfortunate for you. One day, you will meet God with your sins on your soul at The Great White Throne Judgment. Your rejection of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior will eternally separate you from God.

Regarding your second comment.

I guess you didn't see the following update on the main Talk Wisdom post page:

Update: It appears that I was right about the shooter being a left-wing Nazi type hater:

RepubX: Liberals: Holocaust Shooting Right Wing Hate

Excerpt:
Something doesn't seem right here, pardon the pun. The instantaneous, collective kneejerk from liberal pundits to blame the Holocaust Museum shooting on "right wing hate" stinks. It's as if this is a preemptive strike to cover something that may soon be revealed about them…

Quote: I don't think you can deny that there is a rising climate of right wing hate, a lot of it directed at Obama. You and I go way back to the beginning of the campaign and the level of craziness. He's a secret Muslim. He hates America. He wasn't born here. Now this guy, Von Brunn, he's, he, he was one of the birthers. He didn't believe in Obama's birth certificate and he was constantly online agitating about that.
— Joan Walsh, Salon.com, on Hardball


No wonder Walsh works for Salon. There are reports that Von Brunn was a liberal "9/11 Truther" who hated "neocons", Bush and McCain specifically. Inconvenient truth, and I won't waste a "bonehead" on her.


And, these final points reveal the absolute hypocrisy of the leftist extremist propaganda and lies being told:

Go to the liberal blogs and see who holds the title on death wishes for their political and ideological opponents.

And it would seem to me that if you were to add up the numbers, you would probably find the majority of vocal, public anti-semitism on college campuses, and we all know who runs them….

From blackandright.com


Yep....

Ken McKnight said...

I saw the update and it is, if you didn't notice, entirely speculative: "there are reports. . ." You and this twit cited above seem to think that anti-Semitism and criticism of Israel are somehow the same. It's true that there are factions on the Left that criticize Israel's right to exist. They do not--in general--hate Jewish people. The classic anti-Semites are groups like the KKK, who are explicitly and vociferously Christian and right-wing.

In any case, you completely dodged the comment about the shooter's agreement with you and your frothing compatriots who question Obama's bona fides. Are those people typically of the Right or the Left?

Christinewjc said...

And your opinion on the topic isn't "speculative?"

C'mon Ken. You need to admit when you are wrong.

Here's another update that tells us that von Brunn sounds more like your kind of liberal leftist people who hate Bush:

Crazed Holocaust Museum Killer... Hates Bush, McCain, Neocons

John said...

This from CNN:
"Von Brunn's Web site proclaims itself "a new, hard-hitting expose of the Jew conspiracy to destroy the white gene-pool." Postings attributed to von Brunn have appeared on numerous other sites, including ones that call the Holocaust and "The Diary of Anne Frank" hoaxes and bemoan the decline of the "Aryan gene pool."

"Bit by bit Liberalism ascended. Bit by bit the Constitution was re-interpreted. Bit by bit government institutions and Congressmen fell into JEW hands -- then U.S. diplomacy, businesses, resources and manpower came under JEW control," one such message reads. "Whitemen sat on their collective asses and did NOTHING -- NOTHING BUT TALK."

That doesn'r sound like a "liberal leftist" to me. Sounds like another far right wing loon. And I sure don't know where you get your information...well maybe I do...but this comment:
"I could be incorrect about this, but it has been my experience that Holocaust deniers and Jew haters are typically left-wing (anti-Bible/God/Jesus) extremists. But you won't hear that from the Lamestream media." is just off-the-charts ignorance.
Are those friendly David Duke KKK people, which is pretty close to where this guy comes from, even according to his ex wife,"typically left-wing (anti-Bible/God/Jesus) extremists."?

C'mon lady. You need to admit when you are wrong.

Ken McKnight said...

So this is how it works: Any evidence that he is liberal means that he is a typical leftist extremist who represents everyone on the left, but any evidence he is right-wing means he is "a lone gunman nutjob." Yes, that's completely fair and balanced.

Christinewjc said...

Ken,

The fact of the matter is, the liberal left Lamestream media is going to continue to try and blame the "one lone gunman" on "right-wing extremists." The only place where "fair and balanced" reporting will be on the blogs.

Here's another example.

It would be nice if the hatred and attacks would stop on both sides. That is what Glenn Beck tried to do with the 9.12 Project and TEA Parties. We were protesting THE GOVERNMENT'S TERRIBLE POLICIES, ATROCIOUS SPENDING, AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIONS! All types of Americans showed up to protest against both democrats and republicans in Congress. We gathered as fellow Americans - concerned about our Charters of Freedom and especially, the Constitution of the United States.

In my experience, the far left can never get along with, nor make peace, with those they have targeted to hate.

The moderates and blue-dog democrats apparently can - and did just that at the TEA parties.

God save our Nation and the United States Constitution!

Gary Baker said...

Frankly, I don't see how it's possible to associate a hatred of Jews (or any racial group for that matter) as either a "left" or "right" characteristic. It's perfectly correct to say that the KKK hated both Jews and blacks, and it called itself a Christian group. While it claimed to be in favor of "conservative" values, what it favored hardly has much in common with the modern conservative movement which favors equal rights, free speech, and maximum liberty. Like President Obama, the KKK reps put on a good speech about being Christian, but when you watch the actions, it never really did match up.

Now, take another example which broke today, about Rev. Wright, Obama's former pastor. Despite his position as a pastor, I really don't associate him with either conservatism or traditional Christianity, but he seems to have a pretty low opinion of Jews.

And then you go to the major examples of liberalism carried out to it's logical conclusion in Russia, China, North Korea, etc. The government gets around the problem of discrimination by crushing everyone's rights. In the US, at least up to now, the liberal democrats have been satisfied merely to keep as many people as possible poor and poorly educated, but they are moving fast to expand as much as possible.

Ken McKnight said...

I find it amusing that you find it so easy to separate the "good" Christians from the "bad" Christians, but somehow when it comes to liberals they're all the same.

Gary Baker said...

The wisdom of Christ. He said we shall be known by our fruit. We can't really tell by what a person says whether they are really a believer or not, or to what degree. But when someone claims to be a Christian, as in Obama, or a Christian organization, as in the KKK, and then goes around trampling rights and liberties, spreading hatred, and preaching division, it's pretty easy.

In the same way, when most liberals claim to support equal rights, but do not, claim to have supported policies which support minorities but have instead resulted in the destruction of their families and impoverishment of their lives, claim to support education yet actively keep unions in power which destroy any chance of school reform, and preach diversity yet actively work to destroy anyone who varies from their approved mind set, it really is quite easy to pick out the rotters. Oh, I know a few good people who call themselves liberals, but when it comes down to making the right choice or the party-line choice, the principles generally get shelved until it's safe to bring them out again.