Thursday, May 05, 2011

Obama Wasn’t Told Until the Mission Was Under Way?

As the story about what really led up to the raid on UBL's compound in Pakistan (and who was ultimately in charge of the final decision to attack when the SEALS did) keeps changing and the previous decisions (e.g. to release the photos of bin Laden, then not to release them) made are changed, is it any wonder that the American people have doubts about this important event?

There are the naysayers who poo-poo the White House Insider story that I included in my post yesterday. However, many blogs are posting it and very interesting comments have helped to show that the scenario described by the Insider sounds more plausible than what the White House and media of mass deception are putting out.

I found a very reputable blog, the PJ Tattler at Pajamas Media, that posted the same story that I did yesterday. Here is a link:

PJ Tattler - Pajamas Media: Leon Panetta, not Obama, issued order to kill bin Laden?

As you can see, the author of the blog posed the Insider article in the form of a question within the title of the post. That was probably wise since we cannot know for sure whether or not what was written is the absolute truth.

I am pointing readers here to that blog so that you can see the back and forth banter between the commentators in the comment section. It's quite interesting, to say the least. You will also get more logical deductions from the readers there - especially when they are discussing the fact that Obama went golfing on such a momentous day when this extremely important event was about to happen. It does point to the question as to whether or not Obama knew exactly when the raid was going to happen. It helps explain why Leon Panetta could make the final decision - because Obama gave him the authority to do so when he saw it as feasible.

I just could not imagine former President George W. Bush going golfing on the day that the decision was made to get bin Laden. It would NEVER HAPPEN! He would not do something so trivial just before the final order was given to raid a compound in Pakistan in order to get bin Laden, dead or alive. Can you imagine Bush doing such a thing? I can't.

I really wish that there weren't any questions swirling around the bin Laden raid and killing. It makes us look bad to the rest of the world. But when there is a suspected cover-up of true events taking place, we cannot turn a blind eye. At least that is the way that I see it.

I celebrate the fact that Osama bin Laden is dead. I commend all who were involved in carrying out this dangerous mission - especially the brave Navy SEALS who put their own lives in jeopardy to get bin Laden. Justice was finally done for the thousands of people who lost loved ones on 9/11/01. It won't bring their loved ones back or even change their grief over their loss, but perhaps it will help them have some semblance of peace knowing that this mass murderer, once and for all, can never give an order to murder ever again.

There are dozens of comments that you need to read at the link above.

One that makes me tend to believe the Insider story was this one:

48. Roger
“Wrong at the White House…” The old adage goes that “if you lie, you have to lie 1000 times to cover it up” and that would certainly fit the song and dance(s) coming from the WH and Press Sec.

After reading the article I would have to say that “everything lines up” and fits to a tee the persona of a ‘weak’ and ‘manipulated’ puppet. Certainly the batting average of the reporter is pretty good and the specifics, right down to the ‘papers’ to read (from) not being present going in BUT being present coming out (small details but seemingly very telling)…
And yes, the ‘body language’, the guy sitting in the corner in the pic with his gold shirt on and a rather confused look, Oh, yeah, he is the President. He looks more like someone who should be serving coffee – meek, no real fact based opinions… flows with the wind (or Soros)…
I ‘think’ I believe the article… and we may never know for sure but when “outside” facts (times and people) line up with the suggested report then it certainly adds credibility.

We have been lied to so many times by this gangster government administration, it is hard for me to believe that they can actually tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth anymore.

I could post and comment about many more comments at that link, but you can go over and read them for yourself.

Here are the last three (as of 5/5/11 at 7:41 a.m. PT):

60. Count de Money
Here’s another piece of the official narrative that doesn’t pass the smell test but fits in nicely with the Insider’s account.

It is 233 miles straight line distance from Bagram AFB to the Abbottabad compound. We know that one of the helicopters used was a Chinook, probably a MH-47. The cruise speed of a Chinook is about 150 MPH and the service ceiling is about 10,000 ft. However, helicopters probably couldn’t fly in a straight line because of mountains higher than the service ceiling. Let’s assume it took about 2 hours to get to the target.

The raid was said to occur at 3:30 PM EDT. That means the copters had to leave Bagram at about 1:30 PM. At that time however, Obama was on the golf course at Andrews AFB and didn’t get back to the White House until 2:04 PM. So at the time the most important military mission of Obama’s tenure is taking off, he’s putting on the ninth hole? WTF?

This does fit into Insiders account that Obama wasn’t told until the mission was under way.

May 4, 2011 - 9:17 pm Link to this Comment | Reply Count de Money
Source for the golf timeline:

“The president left the White House to play golf at 9:42 am, arriving at the Andrews Air Force Base course about 25 minutes later, according to the press pool report. He then ended his game after nine holes at 1:39 pm and made it back to the White House at 2:04 pm, about two hours before the attack on Bin Laden appears to have occurred.”

May 4, 2011 - 9:33 pm Link to this Comment | Reply Geronimo

Seriously, is there not even one DC reporter interested in the fact that O might have been on a golf course when the birds were in the air and minutes from the actual assault?

No clarification on the May 1st timeline whatsoever?

God help us.

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