Thursday, March 25, 2010

Rabid Left Creating and Baiting for Violence [Add-ons]

This morning, I have been busy replying to comments from a previous post and visiting other blogs reporting on the threats being hurled at both Dem and Republican Senators and House members.

As a TEA Party protester myself, who attended two separate TEA Party protests in Temecula, CA, [see here and here] I can verify what I had observed from the occupants of the cars that drove by the intersection. Those who were obvious Obama supporters often shouted obscenities and pointed their middle fingers at the protesters lined up along the streets. There was a small counter-protest (of Obama supporters) across the street from where my friend and I stood, but we didn't venture over there to see if there were any conflicts happening. I heard, second hand of course, that the corner where both TEA Party protesters and Obama supporters were standing engaged in heated discussions, but I did not hear nor see any physical violence happening. Since the Obama supporters were WAY outnumbered, the TEA Party protesters could have drowned them out completely. However, they did not send them away - giving them the free speech right to support Obama.

But things are very different today. The fact that ObaMAO HELLcare has passed and been signed into law, the Dems KNOW how doomed their party candidates will be in the upcoming 2010 election. Heck! Even Obama knows that he has to STILL go out and sell this awful bill (which is a huge step towards taking away individual freedoms from WE THE PEOPLE) to the public. The large percentage of voters who rejected this terrible legislation over the past 14 months are going to use it against the Dems in the 2010 election campaign.

People are discovering all of the bad stuff that is in the bill. They are learning the truth about all the lies and "talking points" that Dems tried to use to sell the bill to the public. But the majority of the public will not be fooled! They see the danger of this bill and how corruption, deceitfulness, arm-twisting, bribes, threats, and intimidation led to the passing of the bill. Appeasement (like Stupak falling for Obama's E.O.), and side-stepping of the issues (like Rep. Anthony Weiner did on O'Reilly last night - that the IRS is going to go after those who do not buy health insurance are going to reinforce the will of WE THE PEOPLE to vote these traitors to our Constitutional Republic OUT!!

There is SO MUCH that I could share in this post. But I will start with what Glenn Beck stated on his radio show both yesterday, today, and especially what he exposed on the chalkboards on his T.V. show yesterday. You NEED TO VIEW THE VIDEOS when they are available online! I will post a link to them when I find them.

A brief quote from Beck's show yesterday:

"They need you to be estranged from them. They need you to pick up a gun or a bomb. They need you to break the law. They need you to become them in the 1960s. They need you to do it. Because they know America does not support those kinds of people and they have become legitimate. They have dropped the radical pose for the radical ends, and they are making you the radical. Do not play into their game. They hold all of the cards. Do not do anything but get on your knees. As we turn to him, he will turn to us. This is his land. Let it play out his way. Do not pick up anything… except your soul. They need you to become radical."

Beck exposed the fact that the rabid, progressive leftist thugs will do ANYTHING to bait the TEA Party goers, conservative talk radio hosts, conservative speakers, Republicans, and anyone else who are actively speaking out against their Marxist agenda.

The following list contains just a few of the MANY examples.

It all started (for me, anyway) when blogger and commenter Kevin made the following accusations in this comment thread :

Kevin said...
Hi Christine,
What kind of hate is this guy talking about? Surely he must mean all the racist and homophobic statements yelled at the Democrats after the health care bill was passed (not to mention the spitting)? Or is he referring to at least ten members of congress who have received death threats?

Maybe he is referring to the fact that the de facto head of the new Republican Party (Rush Limbaugh) has called for wiping these people out? Jeez, talk about hate...Also, where in the bill is the statement about adding a certain amount to student loans? I haven't heard about this.

March 24, 2010 5:14:00 PM PDT


My reply:


Where is your proof just who it was that yelled the alleged "racist and homophobic" statements? All of the videos produced so far do not show evidence of who it was. In fact, it could have been a progressive "plant" placed there - just at the moment in time when the Dems were ascending the Capitol steps in order to blame it on the TEA Party protesters.

We already know (for a fact) that Obama's SEIU thugs attacked and beat up a black man who was handing out "don't tread on me" flags at a TEA Party protest in the past.

"Wiping people out" means to wipe them out of Congress. C'mon Kevin! Aren't you being a bit disingenuous with that claim?

About the student loans. I heard about it on Neil Cavuto's "Your World." I cannot recall the person being interviewed. However, we now find out that there is a budget mistake in the student loan program placed in the health care bill (plus a few other errors) and it needs to go back to the House for another vote.

Take a look at the partisanship and who is the party of "no" during the Senate reconciliation process over at Nice Deb's blog.

Here's an excerpt from her post:

* Senator Gregg: Protect Medicare Savings
* Senator McCain: Remove Sweetheart Deals
* Senator Crapo: No Tax Hikes for Families Earning Under $250,000
* Senator Enzi: Strike the Employer Mandate
* Senator Barrasso: Requires Legislation Not Increase Premiums
* Senator Grassley: Requires President, Congress Enroll in Exchange
* Senator Alexander: Reduce Student Loan Interest Rate
* Senator LeMieux: Members On Medicaid
* Senator Coburn: Bars Sex Offenders from Receiving E.D. Drugs
* Senator Hutchison: State Opt Out
* Senator Hatch: Block Medicare Advantage Cuts
* Senator Collins: Waive Employer Mandate Tax
* Senator Thune: Strike CLASS Act
* Senator Cornyn: Remove New Taxes on Investments
* Senator Hatch: Protect Wounded Soldiers from Medical Device Tax
* Senator Inhofe: Protect Pediatrics and Disabled from Medical Device Tax
* Senator Crapo: Protect Cancer Patients from Medical Device Tax
* Senators Roberts, Inhofe, Brown, Crapo: Strike Medical Device Tax
* Senator Burr: Tricare and Veterans Health Programs
* Senator Roberts: Rationing
* Senator Roberts: Critical Access Hospitals
* Senator Vitter: Repeals Democrats’ Health Care Bill

Go here to read the details.

Sure was a lot of "tabling" by the Dems going on regarding Republican amendments to the bill.

[Note: Tabling
Parliamentary Procedure.
Chiefly U.S. to lay aside (a proposal, resolution, etc.) for future discussion, usually with a view to postponing or shelving the matter indefinitely. - from]

The Dems didn't want ANY changes to occur - and that's why they turned down most of them. At least one (maybe even two or three) could not be turned down, so the bill does have to return back to the House for a final vote.

The rejection of most of the amendments given by Republicans by the Senate Dems is very, very troubling. Especially the rejection of the viagra to convicted sex offenders amendment. Maybe that was one of the ones accepted? I would hope so.

[Update: Just heard via Rush Limbaugh's radio show that the amendment to keep taxpayer support of viagra being given to convicted sex offenders was rejected by the Dem Senate majority. WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY SAD AND TERRIBLE THING!! Rush suggests using this fact against the Dems in 2010 election commercials.]

March 25, 2010 9:08:00 AM PDT


I added the following comments:

Here's a good article:

7 Sickening Questions About Obamacare.

March 25, 2010 9:10:00 AM PDT

Woah. St. Louis Conservative Kevin Jackson Destroys Race-Baiter David Shuster on MSNBC

As Glenn Beck covered so eloquently on his T.V. show yesterday, the leftist creeps (like Shuster in the video) are trying to spread lies about the TEA Party protest people.Most of the violence has been from the thugs on the left (as Kevin Jackson so easily pointed out to clueless Shuster) - the verifiable kind of violence that has been documented through video, physical evidence and arrests.

March 25, 2010 9:29:00 AM PDT


And then there is this fact. The Media of Mass Deception is choosing to highlight threats towards Democrats from (allegedly) Republican operatives, but chooses NOT TO HIGHLIGHT THREATS TOWARDS REPUBLICANS FROM DEMOCRAT THUG OPERATIVES LIKE SEIU.

Maggie's Notebook has a good rundown of examples from the past, as well as recent threats (one of the most recent being a bullet shot through Republican Eric Cantor's home office) spewed by Progressive Dem operatives. Be sure to take note of clueless Dem Jim Clyburn - who claims that "Republicans are aiding terrorism."

March 25, 2010 10:08:00 AM PDT

My comment at Maggie's Notebook:

Great essay! Great roundup of photos depicting the threats that the rabid left hurled towards President George W. Bush and others during the 8 years of his administration.

Could you imagine if TEA Party protesters held up signs (like the awful ones about Bush) found at Zomblog and Zombietime about Resident Obama??

These 1960's radicals (watch Glenn Beck's show from yesterday) are trying to bait the right, Republicans, and TEA Party Protesters into violence. Since they can't find it - who is to say that they aren't creating it (and baiting it) themselves and then placing the blame on others??
Today, 9:41:59 AM

Another commenter at Maggie's included a link to a message board called Political Wrinkles

Mr. Liberty writes:

ObamaCare Will Eventually ‘Control the People’ Shocking Audio: Rep. Dingell Says ObamaCare Will Eventually ‘Control the People’

The other day I posted something to the affect that this health care bill was just a first step on the road to a single payer system and that it has taken years to get where we are and it will take years to finish the job too.

On WJR 760 AM radio with Paul W. Smith John Dingell confirmed that is what the plan has been all along. It may have been a slip of the tongue by an old man, but he let the cat out of the bag!
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
Thomas Jefferson

The passing of this bill is not only about health care.

It is about taking away our freedoms, people!!!

Your freedoms!

My freedoms!

So now that you know the truth, what are you going to do about it?

Hat Tips to all links.

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My comment there:


When I read your comment at March 24, 2010 at 7:10 pm, I skipped down to comment back to you.

From what I understand, Glenn is launching a new way that we can fight back against this tide of Marxism this Saturday. He has also started a kind of "Beck's University" at his insider website. I haven't joined yet (think it's only $6.00 a month), but I plan to do so in order to learn what he is teaching at the event being launched this Saturday (in Florida? I think?).

I don't think that Beck is advocating that we don't defend ourselves with weapons (after all, he owns several and is licensed to carry a concealed weapon). What he is trying to get across is that VIOLENCE is NOT the answer!

I have just completed a blog post called:

Rabid Left Creating and Baiting for Violence

I hope that you and your readers will come over to read and comment. There are a lot of additional links included in the post.

I think that Glenn sees what's "up the progressive left's sleeve" and how they are going to try and make the TEA Party movement into a "radical group" so that they can blame them for violent acts (which are often created and baited by the leftists, themselves). This is CLASSIC Saul Alinsky methods!

I think that Glenn is right that we need to inform those in the public who are oblivious to what is REALLY going on. Glenn's radio audience is estimated at 8 million and his t.v. show is estimated at 3 million. If each person shares this information and wakes up just ONE, or two, or three neighbors, friends, relatives, or acquaintances, then we would could reach an additional 11 million to 33 million people.

We cannot be silent! We MUST inform people about the dangers of losing our liberty and freedoms through ObaMAO's radical agenda.

Thanks for this great post. I continue to pray that the Kerchner lawsuit will prevail in a court of law and that a brave, true patriot judge will not cave to ObaMAO thuggery and threats.


Kevin said...

Sorry Christine,
(by the way, why did you put quotes around my name? It really is Kevin)
Another conspiracy theory (that there were 'plants' at the Capital screaming racist, homohatred rants) isn't going to fly with me. The Republican Party is in serious trouble with a branch of extremists who don't even understand the issue. When you have anyone who spits at a congressman or yells the N word or the F word, then that is trouble.

And how do you know that the that SEIU thugs weren't TEA party people dressed up like Obama's supporters? Or maybe the black man was an Obama supporter/plant that was put there to be beaten up. Come on. There has to be a time when common sense prevails.

By the way, did you see the poll that was released today? More people like the Health Care Legislation that was just passed than don't like it. 49% say they liked that it passed. Just 40% say they don't like that it passed. 46% of people say that President Obama's work was 'excellent or good' while 33% say it is poor. Only 26% of people polled though the Congressional Republican's effort was excellent or good and 34% say it was poor.
This may be bad news for the Republicans who are hoping to get back some power in November.

Christinewjc said...

Kevin wrote:

(by the way, why did you put quotes around my name? It really is Kevin)

You also use it as your screen

Since it bothered you, I changed it to italics. Happy now?

Look, I'm not going to banter back and forth about polls regarding who likes or dislikes the bill. The fact is, it hasn't been implemented yet. It will be more interesting to see how people react once they realize that this huge government takeover of 1/6th of our economy is a really bad thing.

Heard on the radio that Social Security, which was supposed to go bankrupt by 2016, is out of money six years early! Lots of IOU's piling up and adding to the deficit.

I think that the money being collected for health care over the next four years might end up being spent before the benefits kick in. After all, that's appears to be the way of things in Washington. There's no such thing as Al Gore's "lock box."

As far as November is concerned, I think that Democrats are in for a very rude awakening - and the shock of their lives. We will just have to wait and see what happens.

Christinewjc said...


Contrary to what you choose to believe, "false flag" operations within the TEA Party movement are known to happen.

Here is a post with examples:

Error Theory: Confirmed - False Flag Racists at Sunnyvale TEA Party 7/09

Christinewjc said...


I read your message and thought about it over the weekend. Not quite sure why you would want me to participate in such an endeavor because we do not agree politically, morally, socially, ethically, or based on our individual religious beliefs. This fact reveals that we don't agree on much of anything. Perhaps the only thing is the belief in free speech - thus, we have our occasional conversations here at Talk Wisdom.

The history that I am most familiar with is biblical history. I do not concern myself with every aspect of history (as it pertains to Christianity) over the course of the more generalized history of the world.

Over the years I have picked up lots of information (usually via reading other people's writings), but I need to admit that my knowledge about specific historical events might be sparse and incomplete compared to yours.

My main focus is sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This blog's purpose (as listed under the header) states:

Talk Wisdom's goal is to defend the tenets and values of Biblical Christian faith. We defend our Constitutional Republic and Charters of Freedom, especially when speaking out against destructive social and political issues. As followers of our Savior and Lord, we should boldly stand up for Jesus Christ in our present circumstances. He is our Savior, Lord, and King, and His love needs to be shed abroad in our hearts and in our world - now.

Perhaps Gary (or others) might be more well suited for what you are looking for?

Thanks for offering and thinking that I might be worthy of helping you with such a matter.

Kevin said...

Hi Christine,
I just saw your message (I have been away with relatives for Easter).
I picked you because I was looking for someone with a good eye and an interest in church history. The book is geared to a general audience, so I haven't asked church historians to read it just yet. It was o.k. that we don't agree on everything, but the book wasn't about what we discuss today.
But thanks for thinking about it. I really appreciate it.