Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Being A Constitutionalist


Here is a link to a must read post and comments! American Grand Jury: 'BIRTHERS’ and Sarah Palin are actually just ‘CONSTITUTIONALISTS’

Excerpt:


First of all, ‘Birthers’ who know what this is really all about, know that the ‘Birth Certificate’ is nothing more than a ‘red herring’ in this issue. A Red-Herring because they know that:

1. Article II of the Constitution requires that the U.S. President be a ‘Natural-Born’ U.S. Citizen, not just a ‘born-here’, Naturalized, Anchor-babied, Native-born, etc. U.S. Citizen, but ‘Natural-Born’ - of two (2) U.S. Citizen parents.

2. Barack Hussein (the Long-Legged Mac Daddy) Obama has already admitted that he is not a ‘Natural-Born’ U.S. Citizen when he:

a. Admitted to Alan Keyes in his 2006 Senatorial race that he is not ‘Natural-Born’ when Ambassador Keyes said: ‘But you’re not a ‘Natural-Born’ citizen, Mr. Obama; and Obama answered (paraphrased): ‘Granted. But I’m not running for the Presidency here’;

b. Admitted in his book ‘Dreams From My Father’ that his father was a British/Kenyan citizen when he was born;

c. Admitted (and proven by the divorce papers, now in the public domain) that his mother was, in fact, married to non U.S. Citizen Barack Hussein Obama Sr. (NOTE: When the Hawaiian record-keepers provided certified copies of the Divorce Record, they stated beforehand that it consisted of 13 pages. They ultimately provided only 12 – with no explanation for the shortfall. However, in a divorce proceeding such as this, the Judge would have required a ‘certified’ copy of the Birth Certificate of any minor children of the marriage. The missing page 13 would certainly be the 1964 ‘certified copy’ of by then 3 year-old Barack Hussein Obama’s [Kenyan] birth certificate).
Therefore, no matter what kind of certified ‘Birth Certificate’ We The People finally see – Hawaiian, Kenyan, or Equatorial Guinea (another country that has recently turned up in records research by a former U.S. Immigration official working with Orly Taitz), he is not a ‘Natural-Born’ U.S. Citizen as required by the Constitution. Period.

So real ‘Birthers’ are only interested in seeing that the so-far unaltered terms of the Constitution are met (it takes a bona fide Amendment to the Constitution to change it – a rather long and laborious process, with the full knowledge and acceptance of We The People). We are CONSTITUTIONALISTS!


Great comments there, too! Especially the following:

Follow the Constitution Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Jim, the key words are NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

What is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN?

A Natural Born Citizen is one who is born on US soil by TWO US Citizen Parents. By being born on the soil of the United States AND by two US Citizen parents, you are born owing SOLE loyalty to the United States ONLY!

NO other country could ever claim any citizenship over you.

If you are merely born on US soil and one or both parents are is a foreign citizen then you are born a DUAL CITIZEN of both, the US and a citizen of the country one or both of your parents are a citizen of. It is impossible to be both, a DUAL Citizen AND a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. You are one or the other.

At BEST, Obama can only be a 14th amendment citizen which made him a citizen by legal statue. A Natural Born Citizen is NOT a citizen that is made a citizen under any Federal or State statue. You are AUTOMATICALLY a citizen by natures common law.

ASSUMING, Obama was in fact born in HI (WHICH NO ONE KNOWS FOR CERTAIN) but ASSUMING he was, that only makes him a US Citizen under Federal statue through the 14th amendment because Obama’s father was not nor ever a US Citizen. Obama’s father never even had a permanent residence in the US. He was only here on a student visa to go the college here.

Obama’s father was a British Subject. That made Obama a DUAL Citizen at birth subject to the laws of both, the US AND Britain. To this day, Britain could claim Obama as their citizen. If Obama was to travel to Britain they COULD take him and hold him their as their own citizen and there would be nothing the US could do about it!

Now do you really think the founding fathers would have ever wanted to run that risk of having a President that owes allegiance to another country? Of course not.

The founding father were all DUAL citizens. In order for them to be able to become President AT THE TIME THE CONSTITUTION WAS ESTABLISHED, they had to put a grandfather clause into the constitution to allow them to become President. BUT, from that day forward, anyone born from that day and after, anyone running for President had to be a Natural Born Citizen. Anyone that was born before the date the constitution was established was grandfathered in where they only had to be a US Citizen.

So unless Obama was born prior to the date of the constitution being established, he is not eligible because he is not a Natural Born Citizen and only a DUAL Citizen of the US AND Britain.

Some want to argue BS that because the constitution does not state two US Citizens then that is not true. It IS true! The question is, WHAT is a Natural Born Citizen? The constitution does not define the definition, but all the writings of our founders clearly show that a Natural Born Citizen is a person born on US Soil AND born of TWO US Citizen parents!

It is also a fact that the founders heavily relied on the Law of Nations when they wrote the constitution.

The founders specifically cite Law of Nations in the constitution which is proof in itself that they did in fact rely on the Law of Nations.

Article I - The Legislative Branch

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To define and punish Piracy's and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

It’s right there plain as day! Now this reference to Law of Nations here does not define Natural Born Citizen. But what it does prove is the founders did in fact rely on Law of Nations when writing the constitution.

So what does Law of Nations say about Natural Born Citizen?

Law of Nations

CHAP. XIX.
OF OUR NATIVE COUNTRY, AND SEVERAL THINGS THAT RELATE TO IT.

Follow the Constitution Says:
December 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

There it is! Plain as day!

The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

Of parentS which is plural meaning TWO. BOTH parents must be citizens of the country!

It also states:

those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

So Obama’s citizenship and all rights follow his FATHERS which his father was a foreigner and a British Subject! Obama owes more loyalty and allegiance to Britain than he does to the US no matter where he was born and no matter where he was raised! He is more British than US under the Law of Nations!

So the question is, HOW can a person born with DUAL citizenship, AND, owing allegiance to a FOREIGN Country possibly be a Natural Born Citizen???? IMPOSSIBLE!

Some try to argue his British citizenship expired on his 21st birthday. Well that is not true, but even if it was true, that does not change what the status of his birth was. You are BORN a Natural Born Citizen at BIRTH or you are not! Obama was not! NOTHING that happens later in life that may change ones status of citizenship can never change what the status of your birth was!

The constitution does not say you must be a Natural Born Citizen unless your citizenship status changes somehow later in life! You are either BORN that way or you are not!

Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen no matter where he was born and nothing can ever change that fact! Therefore he is NOT constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States! PERIOD! END OF STORY!


Hat Tip:

American Grand Jury.org

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