Saturday, June 07, 2008

Obama: Newborn not a Person Unless Wanted

New Orleans Lady asks:


Who'd Vote for a Pres Who Doesn't Believe a Newborn is a PERSON Unless it's Wanted?

If someone had announced such beliefs at the dinner table during some party... they'd be shunned b/c others would question their sanity. Yet, the Democrat party has just nominated a man who does hold such beliefs as their Presidential candidate.

It's so hard to absorb the reality of this... and even harder to understand what kind of people could be lead to support such an evil person. I think this is perhaps one of the reasons that so many citizens are apathetic and abstain from participating in the political process. I mean, IF SOMEONE WITH SUCH VIEWS CAN MAKE IT THIS FAR...... it is easy to believe that we as a society are literally at the indicative point of being too far gone to turn the ship around.

Surviving Barack Obama The pro-life movement has often referred to abortion advocates as "baby killers" for supporting the deaths of inconvenient and unwanted pregnancies, though rarely has that criticism been as valid as when applied to radical left-wing freshman senator, Barack Obama.

Obama supports the negligent homicide—and I use that term after careful consideration as being the most accurate descriptor—of babies that survive the best efforts of abortionists and accidentally enter the world alive.

As Michael Gerson noted with obvious revulsion in the Washington Post in April:

Obama has not made abortion rights the shouted refrain of his campaign, as other Democrats have done. He seems to realize that pro-choice enthusiasm is inconsistent with a reputation for post-partisanship.But Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide." Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life. Yes, you heard that correctly. Even though wealthy and quite capable of supporting an inadvertent pregnancy, the Democratic Party's choice for President would consider his own grandchild a punishment. Should the child somehow survive the abortion "Grandpa Barack" apparently wants, Obama would support withholding medical care to his born grandchild. Barack Obama would let him or her die in the hospital through purposeful neglect after having been born alive.

There is no hope here. This is not the kind of radical, dehumanizing change that most Americans realize Obama supports.

Daniel Allott continues shredding Obama's radical support of postpartum infanticide in the Wall Street Journal's The Audacity of Death today, beginning with an interview of Gianna Jessen, an abortion survivor that Obama would have seen die, and then launches into the specifics of Obama's chilling record:

As an Illinois state senator, Barack Obama twice opposed legislation to define as "persons" babies who survive late-term abortions. Babies like Gianna. Mr. Obama said in a speech on the Illinois Senate floor that he could not accept that babies wholly emerged from their mother's wombs are "persons," and thus deserving of equal protection under the Constitution's 14th Amendment.

A federal version on the same legislation passed the Senate unanimously and with the support of all but 15 members of the House. Gianna was present when President Bush signed the Born Alive Infants Protection Act in 2002.

When I asked Gianna to reflect on Mr. Obama's candidacy, she paused, then said, "I really hope the American people will have their eyes wide open and choose to be discerning. . . . He is extreme, extreme, extreme."

"Extreme" may not be the impression the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have bought Mr. Obama's autobiography have been left with. In "The Audacity of Hope," Mr. Obama's presidential manifesto, he calls abortion "undeniably difficult," "a very difficult issue," "never a good thing" and "a wrenching moral issue."

He laments his party's "litmus test" for "orthodoxy" on abortion and other issues, and even admits, "I do not presume to know the answer to that question." That question being the moral status of the fetus, who he nonetheless concedes has "moral weight."

Those statements are seriously made but, alas, cannot be taken at all seriously. Mr. Obama has compiled a 100% lifetime "pro-choice" voting record, including votes against any and all restrictions on late-term abortions and parental involvement in teenagers' abortions.

To Mr. Obama, abortion, or "reproductive justice," is "one of the most fundamental rights we possess." And he promises, "the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act," which would overturn hundreds of federal and state laws limiting abortion, including the federal ban on partial-birth abortion and bans on public funding of abortion.

Then there's Mr. Obama's aforementioned opposition to laws that protect babies born-alive during botched abortions. If partial-birth abortion is, as Democratic icon Daniel Patrick Moynihan labeled it, "too close to infanticide," then what is killing fully-birthed babies? It is of course, infanticide.

If Barack Obama is smart, perhaps he can restart the false "Obama is a Muslim" meme to distract us away from his far more damnable short-comings as a father, presumptive grandfather, and human being.

HT: New Orleans Lady at Sean Hannity Message Boards

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"[Pro-abortion baby death] Democrats pretend to care about the 4,000 Americans that have died, in Iraq, protecting our freedoms, but fully supported the murder of 289,650 babies in 2006."

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- Christinewjc


Obama's extremism is just beyond comprehension...


Matericia said...

No one is pro-abortion.
Barack Obama

Barack Obama is an original co-sponsor of legislation to expand access to contraception, health information and preventive services to help reduce unintended pregnancies. Introduced in January 2007, the Prevention First Act will increase funding for family planning and comprehensive sex education that teaches both abstinence and safe sex methods. The Act will also end insurance discrimination against contraception, improve awareness about emergency contraception, and provide compassionate assistance to rape victims.

"This is a difficult moral issue. And one of the things that I believe is that to pretend that it's not a moral issue is a mistake. I think that people wrestle with this issue deeply. My belief is simply that women are in the best position to make that very difficult moral decision." - Barack Obama

Christinewjc said...

Obama claims to be a Christian. Most Christians who follow Jesus and His Word are pro-life.

When it comes to this issue, Obama apparently thinks that "women are in the best position to make that very difficult moral decision" and that what he personally thinks should trump what God's Word and Laws state about the issue.

Besides, you didn't address the fact that Obama is so radical that he would allow a baby born as the result of a "botched" abortion to die on a cold, steel, examination table rather than to give the baby medical assistance to help it live. That is infanticide. There is no argument or excuse for that. Yet, that's how radical Obama is about this horrible evil.

I have read many comprehensive arguments against abortion. However, the following link provides some of the best.

Biblical Arguments Against Abortion.

It includes biblical arguments against abortion. But there are also medical, legal, and philosophical arguments against abortion.

As the article states at the end:

The Bible and logic are on the side of the Christian who wants to stand for the sanctity of human life.

Christinewjc said...

For the sake of anyone reading here who has gone through the pain and guilt of having an abortion, there is hope! Not the political charged ad nauseum blather of "hope" being thrown around at political rallies by the Obama campaign...but the true hope in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!

Please read:

[Note: As per the website, permission is granted to re-distribute this message in it's entirety as long as no fee is required or paid for the use of the material.]

Can I Be Forgiven for My Abortion?
Written by Sue Bohlin

What if someone really believes that they were saved at a young age (14). . .but is then faced with an unwanted pregnancy at age 15 . . .and she terminates the pregnancy even though she KNOWS in her heart that it was wrong - do you believe that she can be forgiven? God tells us that He will never put more on us than we can handle . . .so what if we make the WRONG choice . . .what if we take the easy way out??? Do you think he can forgive us for this? I mean . . .what about the sacredness of life . . .I mean a baby is the most innocent of His creation . . .I hope with all my heart that it can be forgiven. . .but I just don't see how!!! I interfered with His plan!!! Plus what about the scripture in Proverbs . . .about a man being tortured by the guilt of murder shall be a prisoner forever . . .let no one support him . . doesn't this mean that I'm supposed to be tormented by it FOREVER!!! and no one should help me????

Okay . . .Here's my story . . . [Story edited out]

Thanks so much for listening . . .this has been hidden for so long that it has been so difficult re-living it!!! Maybe it is my judgment to live with this internal struggle . . .maybe I'm not supposed to find peace . . .
What a mess I've made of my life!!!!!!!

Dear ______, precious child of God, beloved daughter of the King—
I am so very very VERY glad you wrote! I hurt with you. . . in fact, there are tears in my eyes as I write this to you—my heart hurts for you and for the burden you have been carrying all these years.

Let’s get to the bottom line first: In Jesus’ name, YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN FORGIVEN!!! Because you have trusted Christ, the first time you confessed your sin of abortion and asked for God’s forgiveness, He gave it to you. In fact, He POURED His forgiveness out on you like an anointing of oil. Listen to 1 John 1:9:
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

You confessed your sin, and because He is faithful and He is just (meaning, Jesus already paid for your sin at the cross), God the Father not only forgave you of your sin, He cleansed you from the stain of your guilt. Your feelings of being unforgiven and dirty and shame-filled have been lying to you, because the truth is, you are forgiven and clean and accepted in the Beloved (Eph. 1:6 KJV)
I want to challenge you to do something that will help you really GET this truth. Three times a day (at least), say out loud, “Thank You, Lord for forgiving me because Jesus died for me. I receive Your forgiveness and I receive Your cleansing. Thank You for making me clean and pure again.” It really helps to say it out loud so that your spirit hears those words of truth come out of your mouth. This is the way of faith, the way we receive God’s blessings by faith even before we feel them.
You have some work to do to get to the point where you can feel unashamed and pure again—but that’s not a matter of EARNING those things, but of changing your thinking so that you can embrace the reality that is yours to live out. Is there an Abortion Restoration or Recovery ministry near you? Ask the Lord to show you if there is; I don’t know of any network of programs to check with, but I can point you to an excellent workbook you can do on your own. This is the book that is used at our church for the Abortion Restoration class that healed, post-abortal women offer a couple of times a year.

Her Choice to Heal by Sydna Masse and Joan Phillips

Also, there are a couple of websites where you can do some reading that will be very encouraging to you as you work your way through the necessary grieving of the loss of your baby (who is in heaven, and you will see him or her again some day!), and the necessary forgiving of those involved: yourself, the boy who got you pregnant, your parents, the Planned Parenthood people, and anyone else who played a part in the trauma to your soul.

I also suggest you listen to a lot of praise and worship music so that you focus on the Lord and let Him minister His love to you. As you do that, there’s one prayer I would strongly suggest you pray, regularly: “Lord, show me how much You love me.” He LOVES to answer that prayer!

You have not gone further than God’s grace can reach, and you have done nothing that He cannot turn into good, for His glory and for your benefit. God wants to soak His grace down into the very bottom of your soul. Jesus’ blood has covered and cleansed your sin, and you are clean and forgiven because He loves you so much He paid the ultimate price to prove it to you.

I’m glad you told me your story, because with every telling, you release more of the shame and the guilt, and you take another step toward healing. Who knows. . . some day you may find yourself telling your story to young girls BEFORE they make the same mistake you did, and you will watch God redeem your pain to change lives to His glory!

I SO hope this helps.

Sue Bohlin
Probe Ministries
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Addendum: I received this note from someone who works in abortion recovery ministry:

Hi Sue,
I was just reading your response to the email question: Can I be forgiven for my abortion? My heart is heavy for her and I am lifting her up in prayer.

She might also locate a recovery support group in her immediate area by doing a zip code search at

About the same time, I received this wonderful letter from the original writer:

Dear Sue,
I did find a place that ministers to women like me. . . and I am planning to participate in the "Forgiven and Set Free" Bible study. I've been through the study guide 3 times and I can't even tell you how much it helped me!! I know that I am not alone and I will continue to work on my healing...

I wanted to share a poem that I wrote with you--it comes from my heart. . .

A Baby's Perspective. . . I can hear her talking with someone ~ I know it is all about me . . .
She says she's just not "ready" and the TRUTH she cannot see . . .
The truth that You made me and meant for me to be with her . . .
That You would never put more on her than she is able to endure.
For You created my inmost being & placed me in her womb. . .
But she does not realize this and will make a choice real soon.
Please be with her and help her to make the choice that is right . . .
And to know that NOTHING can be hidden from Your sight!
For I am a precious baby and deserve the right to live. . .
If she could only know ~ I've got lots of love to give!
They have NO RIGHT to decide to remove me from this place. . .
But I know that real soon I will be looking upon Your face.
For You are already aware of the choice she will make. . .
Oh God ~ she just doesn't realize all that is at stake!
For as hard as she tries ~ she will be UNABLE TO FORGET. . .
I just pray someday she will feel the NEED to REPENT!
And when that time comes ~ help her to cope with what she's done. . .
And to find strength, love and compassion in the arms of Your Son!
For the blood of Jesus can purify her from all of her sin. . .
No matter how SEVERE & HORRIBLE it might have been!
I know she feels scared inside as I can hear her every cry. . .
She even prays and wishes that You would let HER die.
She is being faced with a TREMENDOUS internal struggle. . .
So many feelings and emotions she will try to juggle . . .
The biggest decision she's faced thus far has been 'what to wear'. . .
But now she feels as if she is living a TERRIBLE nightmare!
Please help her to realize the truth before it is too late . . .
That a baby is a precious gift and NEVER a mistake!
These people talking to her right now don't even have a clue!
They are telling her what they believe she really needs to do.
They tell her she would be better off without me in her life. . .
Even though he says he loves her -she's too young to be his wife!
They tell her: "You must make a choice and do it really fast . . .
Then you can get on with your life and put this in the past. . .
Just go and take care of this 'problem' and never think of it again"
Oh - God - Don't they even realize the SEVERITY of this sin-!?!??!
Why is this the ONLY advice that they have to give !!?!?!?
That it's not in her best interest to even let me LIVE!?!?!
They tell her that she has so much to look forward to ~
And forgetting about this "situation" is all she needs to do!
How can they make this option sound so easy and so right??
Oh - please God ~ before it's too late - help them to see the light!
Please forgive them - they do not know what they are saying!
When instead they should be on their knees and praying!
She is now talking to her mom about her big "mistake"
Surely my grandma will help her before it is too late!
But instead I hear my grandma say she doesn't want me to be born. . .
She says that I will only bring the family a lot of shame & scorn.
God - please be with them as they face this tragic event. . .
And when it's all over - please show them their NEED to REPENT!!
What are they thinking!?!? - THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE AN OPTION!!!
I never once heard anyone mention the possibility of adoption!
Why do they continue to talk as if I'm not "real". . .
That I'm just a "blob of tissue" and really "no big deal"
They do not know that You made me and have a Plan for me. . .
If only we could open their eyes so that THIS they would see!
Sooner or later she will be faced with the reality of her action. . .
And grief, despair, guilt & shame will be part of her reaction.
When this time comes - God please help her to know that it is true . . .
That there is NOTHING in this world that You cannot do!
And when my mommy is forced to deal with this someday . . .
Please let her know when she seeks You ~ everything will be okay!
That Your amazing Grace and abounding love will see her through . . .
That all she needs to do is to place all of her trust in You!
When she puts her faith in Jesus and what He did on HER behalf. . .
Then surely You will save her from all of Your wrath!
For You sent Jesus into the world to save us from EVERY sin. . .
From even the most horrendous ones that are hard to comprehend!
Please help her to realize that in Your Word she needs to trust. . .
That if she confesses this sin to You, You will be faithful & JUST. . .
You will forgive her and make her "pure" again. . .
And You will no longer remember this terrible sin!
So please let my mommy confess & feel Your presence in her heart. . .
So that she will realize that she can have a brand new start!
Please protect her from all the people who will be quick to condemn. . .
For You said let him throw the first stone who is completely without sin!
For ALL sin separates us from You and no one is "good" enough. . .
For being "perfect" and always doing "right" is just way too tough!
For we have a "sinful nature" - the bible says it through & through. . .
But if we believe & trust in Jesus we can be made completely "new"!
For You can turn ANY situation into GOOD for Your glory. . .
She may even help others someday by telling her story!
For Your love is GREATER than we can ever comprehend. . .
And Your Grace covers even the very worst of sin!
Even though I wish we would never have to be apart. . .
Please let her know I still love her with all of my heart!
Tell her I forgive her and forgive herself she must . . .
For I am in heaven with You and in that she can trust.
I pray that someday she will come to You with this big "mess". . .
And I know that You will help her in her time of great distress. . .
When she finally finds you -in Your loving arms she will stay. . .
And I will be so very happy that I will see her in heaven one day!

About the Author
Sue Bohlin is an associate speaker with Probe Ministries. She attended the University of Illinois, and has been a Bible teacher and conference speaker for over 30 years. She serves as a Mentor Mom and speaker for MOPS (Mothers of Pre-Schoolers), and on the board and as a small group leader of Living Hope Ministries, a Christ-centered outreach to those dealing with unwanted homosexuality. She is also a professional calligrapher and the webmistress for Probe Ministries; but most importantly, she is the wife of Dr. Ray Bohlin and the mother of their two grown sons.
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Doug said...

Many consider somebody who casts a ballot based in great part on a candidate's stance on abortion to be a "one issue voter," but this is about far more than one issue. This is about right and wrong, responsibility, morality, dignity, respect, and human rights. Of all our rights, if there is no right to life, the rest of them don't matter. It's not about a single issue -- it's about every issue. Why do some refuse to accept this fact?

Love the "new look" by the way!

Sam Pierce said...

I would suggest that a person's stance on abortion can be a good indicator of his or her character, which will affect every issue.

I cannot believe anyone could possibly spin Barry O's stance on abortion in any positive way. What he did to the born alive protection bill in Illinois is clear and decisive!

Carlotta Morrow said...

Twenty years in a church that teaches acceptance of abortion and homosexuality has had a significant influence on Obama as many of us believe.

Be nice if he'd pick up the bible and read it for himself!

-a former Obama supporter
once blind but now I see!
(Thanks to Christine and others)

Christinewjc said...

Hi Doug,

You are so right! Especially this point:

"Of all our rights, if there is no right to life, the rest of them don't matter."

People can be blinded by deception and evil. They can turn the truth into a lie. That describes the lie of "choice" being used as an excuse for the murder of abortion -period!

I'm glad you like the new look of the blog!

Christinewjc said...

Hi Sam,

Yes! One's stance on something as awful as abortion DOES tell a lot about a person's character and moral values!

I REALLY hope that McCain brings up Obama's radical infanticide voting record during the debates! These issues are not being shared by the MSM.

IMO, NO CHRISTIAN should EVER vote for someone who thinks it's ok to let a baby just die if he/she is born alive during a "botched" abortion!

Christinewjc said...

Yay Carlotta!

You have seen the Light!

You have been "Talk Wisdom-ized!" (stole that idea from Sean Hannity's "Hannitize the vote!")

We need to get the word out and let people know how anti-Christian and radical Obama's worldview REALLY IS!