Tuesday, August 18, 2009

Obama's Staged Town Meeting in Montana

One of the things that I like about blogging is the fact that ordinary citizens can get detailed information to the public that the Lamestream Media often leaves out. Case in point.

Over at Citizen Wells blog, a commentator named "Carlyle" shared the story of an acquaintance who experienced what it was like to be a protester at Obama's Montana staged town hall meeting:


“Things are not always what they seem”.

Hello All,

By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Joe and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on.

On Wednesday, August 5th it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his health care and huge spending so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date.

On about Tuesday Joe found out that they would be holding the “Town Hall” at the airport. (This is only because Joe knows EVERYONE at the airport)

Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you can not get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public.

FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/auditoriums).
All of which have chairs and tables, and would not have to be SHIPPED
IN!! $$$$$

During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly. Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession. $$$$$

Late Tuesday/early Wednesday the 12th, they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations and the president would be arriving around 12:30 Friday.

Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request. Hmmmm……900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.

This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama.

Montana has some of the best beef in the nation!!! And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think…with all of the traveling the White House is
doing. $$$$$ One can only imagine what else we are paying for.

On Friday Joe and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama’s spending and health care had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union) members drove up onto the area (illegal)and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd.

The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore pre-printed T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them…..professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and pre-printed signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area)

Those against health care/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man.

So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest.

If you are wondering about the press…..Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds.

We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho.

Speaking of the local media…they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn’t want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.

It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government health care.

Even those people that talked about their insurance woes……..the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors…EVERYTHING was staged!!!!!!!!!!!

I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America, more like the USSR!! I was physically nauseous. Joe and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved. Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices again and again!! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC. Scary!!”

Thanks to commenter Carlyle for this great report.

What about the expense of all of this? Obama doesn't even care that he is spending millions of dollars of taxpayer money to go around the country, make himself look like some faux kind of "hero" (UGH!!!) and set up fake scenarios like this one in order to force Americans to believe that many people are going along with his awful health care plans. How lame could this bogus POTUS get?

There is also a link to an article that discusses the fact that pro-Obama supporters (I mean, THUGS like SEIU members) showed up at this orchestrated "town hall meeting" which was held in a remote area at the airport in an airport hanger.

Here is a copy of an article entitled Obama Gets The Facts Wrong At Montana Town Hall And Adds To Misinformation
By Tom White, on August 15th, 2009

President Obama says there is a lot of misinformation out there, and he is correct. Most of it is coming from his own mouth. In fact, he has so mangled the truth that most experts say his credibility on Health Care is shot. During Friday’s Town Hall meeting in Belgrade, Montana Obama proved by his numerous misstatements and assertions that he is the leading cause of the confusion.

Many of the talking points Obama regurgitates at every opportunity have been completely debunked, yet he feels if he continues to repeat these over and over, they could somehow come true. Or more likely, believe his lies.

The Montana Town Hall was supposed to be one that did not allow the White House to cherry pick attendees. However, many against the Health Care plan arrived at 8:00 AM to get tickets, which were supposed to be distributed beginning at 9:00 AM, only to be told the tickets were all gone.

NewsMax reported:

“Something’s a little fishy here,” Jim Walters, eastern coordinator for Resistnet, a grass-roots organization affiliated with the Grassfire.org Alliance, told Newsmax prior to the event. “They weren’t supposed to start handing out tickets until 9 o’clock. I had people up here at 8, and the tickets were already gone.”

Walters estimated 1,000 people were gathered outside the airport near Bozeman, Mont., where the event was held. Walters told Newsmax that union members who arrived via bus from Chicago had initiated an altercation with town hall protesters. He said he saw police making several arrests.

“I don’t understand that,” Walters said of the union response. “We’re here to have peaceful rallies.”

So much for Grassroots. Bus loads of Union thugs are now the new norm at Obama Town Halls. Strange how these out of towners all managed to get tickets. I guess the Brown Shirts have priority over the common folk.

Obama specifically asked for someone who was “skeptical” of the reform plan. The person asking the question was an insurance salesman, and he asked why the president is trying to “vilify” health insurance companies.

“My intent is not to vilify the insurance companies,” Obama said. “We want to make sure the practices that are very tough on people, those practices change.”

But since Obama had opened the meeting saying, “We are held hostage … by health insurance companies”, this was simply another lie. A post on this Blog a few days ago shows that insurance company profits come from investments, not overcharging premiums. Many years the Insurance Companies would have lost money if the premiums were their only income.

Obama’s claims to use prevention to save money is an interesting, but false premise. Charles Krauthammer debunks this theory and says it will actually cost more in an article in the Washington Post.

Obama followed suit in his Tuesday New Hampshire town hall, touting prevention as amazingly dual-purpose: “It saves lives. It also saves money.”
Reform proponents repeat this like a mantra. Because it seems so intuitive, it has become conventional wisdom. But like most conventional wisdom, it is wrong. Overall, preventive care increases medical costs.

This inconvenient truth comes, once again, from the CBO. In an Aug. 7 letter to Rep. Nathan Deal, CBO Director Doug Elmendorf writes: “Researchers who have examined the effects of preventive care generally find that the added costs of widespread use of preventive services tend to exceed the savings from averted illness.”

How can that be? If you prevent somebody from getting a heart attack, aren’t you necessarily saving money? The fallacy here is confusing the individual with society. For the individual, catching something early generally reduces later spending for that condition. But, explains Elmendorf, we don’t know in advance which patients are going to develop costly illnesses. To avert one case, “it is usually necessary to provide preventive care to many patients, most of whom would not have suffered that illness anyway.” And this costs society money that would not have been spent otherwise.

Think of it this way. Assume that a screening test for disease X costs $500 and finding it early averts $10,000 of costly treatment at a later stage. Are you saving money? Well, if one in 10 of those who are screened tests positive, society is saving $5,000. But if only one in 100 would get that disease, society is shelling out $40,000 more than it would without the preventive care.

That’s a hypothetical case. What’s the real-life actuality? In Obamaworld, as explained by the president in his Tuesday town hall, if we pour money into primary care for diabetics instead of giving surgeons “$30,000, $40,000, $50,000″ for a later amputation — a whopper that misrepresents the surgeon’s fee by a factor of at least 30 — “that will save us money.” Back on Earth, a rigorous study in the journal Circulation found that for cardiovascular diseases and diabetes, “if all the recommended prevention activities were applied with 100 percent success,” the prevention would cost almost 10 times as much as the savings, increasing the country’s total medical bill by 162 percent. That’s because prevention applied to large populations is very expensive, as shown by another report Elmendorf cites, a definitive review in the New England Journal of Medicine of hundreds of studies that found that more than 80 percent of preventive measures added to medical costs.

So, the bottom line is that President Obama is spreading lies and false accounting data. There is no savings in the plan and this plan, in the end, will waste more money, degrade our Health Care system, and prove to be an absolute failure that will ruin our country.

The author is correct. There is much misinformation out there - and most of it is DELIBERATE DISINFORMATION coming from the LYING MOUTH of our current bogus POTUS!

How in the world can anyone trust this man to ever tell the truth about anything? He's a perpetual LIAR!!!

Well, people are certainly taking notice of Obama's high crimes and misdemeanors, Many are on to him and they correctly suspect that Obama is probably lying about his so-called "support" of keeping second amendment gun rights and freedoms legal in the United States.

Gun rights advocates showed up at one of Obama's fake Town Hall meetings packing pistols. One guy even carried a rifle slung over his shoulder!


Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.

The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.

Phoenix police Detective J. Oliver, who monitored the man at the downtown protest, said police also wanted to make sure no one decided to harm him.

"Just by his presence and people seeing the rifle and people knowing the president was in town, it sparked a lot of emotions," Oliver said. "We were keeping peace on both ends."

Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in New Hampshire, a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg.

"It's a political statement," he told The Boston Globe. "If you don't use your rights, then you lose your rights."

I doubt that gun owners carrying heat and protesting Obama's policies will convince Obama to start telling the truth at town hall meetings.

However, the fact that these gun owners in Arizona have the state guaranteed freedom to legally and openly carry weapons (permits needed for concealed weapons).

On a national level, the second amendment of the United States Constitution gives citizens the right to own guns. The Founders knew that it would be important for protection purposes - especially in the case that such protection might one day be needed because a tyrannical government might overstep its constitutional bounds and try to take over this nation and turn it into an oligarchy and/or Marxist country. Not gonna happen when the citizenry is armed to protect our rights, nation, and founding documents!

Owning firearms is a right guaranteed by our Constitution. It is the one right that might very well ultimately protect us from ObamaFRAUD's corrupt agenda. This is to be celebrated.

Hat Tips:

Citizen Wells

Virginia Right

Fox News


Just noticed this from a commenter over at Citizen Wells blog named "Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero: Peter Francisco":

Gun Rights Refresher
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
4. “Free” men do not ask permission to bear arms.
5. If you don’t know your rights you don’t have any.
6. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
7. What part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand?
8. The Second Amendment is to enforce the other 9 Amendments.
9. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
10. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.
11. Know guns, know peace, know safety.
12. No guns, no peace, no safety.
13. You don’t shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
14. 911 – government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
15. Assault is a behavior, not a gun device.
16. Criminals love gun control — it makes their jobs safer.
17. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
18. Only a government that is afraid of citizens prohibits guns.
19. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
20. Remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves.
21. The American Revolution was about gun control.

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