Tuesday, August 20, 2013

Levin Confronted By A Birther

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There is an interesting conversation going on at the blog called Obama Release Your Records.  I thought that I would bring that conversation over here to Talk Wisdom so that readers can listen to the audio of Mark Levin describing his encounter with a birther at a book signing.  Several interesting comments included in the conversation there and I have also shared my thoughts about what is being discussed in today's post entitled, "Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible.

Basically, there is an audio there that covers the following:

Audio: Mark Levin Attacks Birthers: Admits He Hasn't 
Studied Issue; Declares Canadian-Born Cruz Eligible
 I'm disappointed in Levin.  But so many like him are claiming to be ignorant of this entire issue.  It is unfortunate that the person was rude when he approached Levin at the book signing.  It just goes to show that if you want your issues addressed, it is much better to calmly approach individuals so that they won't dismiss you out right just because of your angry behavior.

Look, I don't know entirely whether or not Obama was eligible in the first place.  Hey - if it is someday proven that Obama was eligible, and it turns out that I have been wrong on this issue, I will freely admit it.  However, his nativity story is unraveling like nothing I've ever seen before.  There are rumors that his mother wasn't actually Stanley Ann Dunham.  There are rumors that his father was either Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X.  If his genuine parents were both American citizens, then he is eligible.  But if this is true, then what about all of the fraud involved in creating a false narrative via his books, as well as the illegal act of presenting a fraudulent document that has been proven to be 100% fake because all  of the layers found on it  were computer generated?  Isn't that a crime in and of itself?

[Note:  Additional links to be added to the above paragraphs later so that you can read the posts that discuss these issues.]

Anyway, I would like to share some thoughts about Levin attacking a birther on his radio show.  I wonder whether or not he has seen the evidence of the fraudulent birth certificate that was used as "proof" of his citizenship?  Perhaps Sheriff Arpaio and his group should present him with their findings.

My comment  at the Obama Release Your Records site (with some added detail):

This is so disappointing to learn about Levin.  I was really encouraged by what I have read and heard concerning his new book, "The Liberty Amendments."  I haven't kept up with his radio show, so I didn't know that he was out rightly rejecting all of the evidence regarding Obama's fraudulent birth certificate.  For him to delve into the Constitution so deeply and re-discover a method for the states to legally hold a "convention of the states" (not a Constitutional convention which would involve Congress and could ruin the results); yet reject the portion of the Constitution that plainly states that any President of the United States NEEDS TO BE BORN OF TWO CITIZEN PARENTS tells me that he is behaving just like Supreme Court Justice Thomas when Thomas stated, "we are avoiding that issue."  See video.

Thomas said, "we are evading that issue."


[ih-veyd] Show IPA verb, e·vad·ed, e·vad·ing.
verb (used with object)
to escape from by trickery or cleverness: to evade one's pursuers. avoid, dodge. face, confront.
to get around by trickery: to evade rules.
to avoid doing or fulfilling: to evade an obligation.
to avoid answering directly: to evade a question.
to elude; escape: The solution evaded him.]

I don't know exactly why so many are avoiding the issue, but I suspect that it has to do with losing their jobs, family members threatened, exposure of past sins/indiscretions, or the ultimate silencer - the threat of death to themselves or loved ones.
It is really very odd that ObaMARXIST and his BADministration is getting away with so much corruption, deception, criminality and even possible murders that have occurred to keep people silent on the "birther" issue.  The way that every scandal is being swept away without anyone enduring any kind of punishment is unfathomable!  But it's happening.  We must continue to ask WHY?
I was actually hoping (naively, perhaps) that Ted Cruz brought up his birth certificate and the recent "renouncement of his Canadian citizenship" in order to demonstrate that HE IS, IN FACT, INELIGIBLE just as Obama is ineligible!  But it doesn't appear to be the case (not yet, anyway).

Listen, like most conservatives, I love the challenges that Ted Cruz puts up against the elitists in Congress.  He might even make a great president one day!  Unfortunately, according to our U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1, clause 5, Cruz is not eligible!

 However, it would be a brilliant idea for Cruz to use his status to help smoke out Obama's ineligibility crimes - wouldn't it?  Getting the media of mass deception to cover Cruz's ineligibility for POTUS would shed much light on Obama's fake nativity story - and his ineligibility (whether it was because he was born in Kenya and Obama Sr. was really his father, or that stepfather Soetoro in Indonesia adopting him and putting him in school there caused loss of Barry's American citizenship); as well as the suspected idea that Barry attended college (recall those sealed records?)  in the U.S. as a "foreign student" with foreign aid out into the open!  It would also present a great opportunity for Zullo, Sheriff Arpaio, and the Cold Case Posse to expose the findings that the B.C. Obama touted as genuine is a COMPLETELY FRAUDULENT DOCUMENT due to the fact that it was entirely computer generated.

Well, thanks for reading my thoughts here.  It probably won't do any good but thought I'd express them anyway.

One day, the truth will come out.  The Bible tells us in three verses:

Mat 10:26

“Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.

 Luk 8:17

“For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.

 Luk 12:2

“For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known.


Hat tip:

Obama Release Your Records


GMpilot said...

You say you're disappointed in Levin because he admits he 'hasn't studied the issue'. Neither have the birfers, it seems.
You say ”There are rumors that his mother wasn't actually Stanley Ann Dunham. There are rumors that his father was either Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X. If his genuine parents were both American citizens, then he is eligible.”
But that's all they are: rumors.
As stated by me (and the United States Code) repeatedly, a “natural born citizen” (that's the preferred term, right?) is one who is born within the borders of the USA or its territories, regardless of where his parents are from, or if at least one of the birth parents is a US citizen, regardless of where the child is born.
If the “Dad-must-be-a-native-citizen” deVattelists have their way, Rick Santorum is also ineligible as president, since his father was Italian and not yet a citizen when Rick was born.

A couple of years ago the vogue in birfer circles was that Malcom X (Little) was Obama's true father. Later it was switched to...F. M. Davis So many suspects...but if either of them were, then Obama is definitely a US citizen by birfer specs, because both Little and Davis were American citizens. Of course it matters nothing, since Obama is American by his having been born in Hawaii. If Canadian-born Ted Cruz is ineligible, some way of twisting the US Code in his favor will doubtless be sought.

It's been over five years, and what do the birfers have? Insinuations, speculation, conjecture, character (but not yet actual assassination; at least two (and possibly three) birth certificates forged by the birfers themselves; hundreds of thousands of dollars spent by Joseph Farrah, Orly Taitz, Jerome Corsi, Philip Berg, “Dr. Kate” Vandemoer, Sheriff Arpaio of Arizona, and a host of lesser lights...very dim lights.

What they don't have is one single piece of evidence. None. All the ominous hints and dark suggestions in the world can't take the place of just one factual item—and the birfers haven't got any.
Posters calling for a birth certificate can't do it. “Breaking news items” on YouTube can't do it. Celebrity spokespersons can't do it. Prayers can't do it (if they could, Obama would never have taken office). Anti-Obama scrawls on highway overpasses can't do it. Books 'revealing' Obama's alleged past can't do it.
We all know what could. All the birfers have to do is produce it.

Christinewjc said...

So...GM...it doesn't even matter to you that the so-called "long form birth certificate" that Obama came up with back in 2011 has been proven to be a 100% forgery?

Hey...did you hear that Liberals have become birthers? Heh heh

"The only people who won't disclose the truth...are people with something to hide." - Barack Hussein Obama [HT Obama Release Your Records blog]

Oh...one last thing regarding your "prayers" comment. It's all involved with God's timetable...not ours.

One day, the truth will come out. The Bible tells us in three verses:

Mat 10:26

“Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.

Luk 8:17

“For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.

Luk 12:2

“For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known.

steve said...

I saw where John Liming actually wrote that possibly one of Obama's enemies forged his birth certificate to make him look bad. I had to laugh. But suddenly I see Mr. Pilot say basically the same thing! I am disappointed that Mr. Pilot wasn't original in that scenario.
Sooooo ... let's see; the dastardly "birfer" went and stole Obama's birth certificate from him, made changes, put it back so Obama could present it to the American people. Man! I wish I had noticed that before!
It keeps getting better all the time!
He's sounding more bizarre with every comment.

GMpilot said...

”So...GM...it doesn't even matter to you that the so-called "long form birth certificate" that Obama came up with back in 2011 has been proven to be a 100% forgery?”

Yeah? Who said so, and can you provide a link to that claim? Let's see:

A YouTube video! Yeah, that'll reach more people than all the networks put together...and unlike Fox—who seems to be keeping its distance--YouTube can't be sued for slander.
In any case, for every YouTube presentation, there is an equal and opposite YouTube presentation.
Like the series starting here.

WorldTribune.com cites Lt. Mike Zullo of the Maricopa County CCP, who in turn cites Sheriff Joe Arpaio, his nominal boss, who cites Reed Hayes' assertion that the BC is forged. This was six weeks ago, and I have neither seen nor heard anything about it; even in the right-wing blogosphere the noise has been soft. One would think they wouldn't mind a “Constitutional crisis” or possible “civil war” in order to remove the Usurper and restore Gawd to his rightful place as leader of the nation. It's certainly been talked up enough over the past five years.

For something as important as this, it's important to get a second, or even third, opinion, and gain consensus on its authenticity (or lack of it). But what Hayes actually says is:

“In over 20 years of examining documentation of various types, I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects. In my opinion, the birth certificate is entirely fabricated,” states Mr. Hayes.

So, no room there for any other opinions. 'Hayes said it, I believe it, and that settles it' seems to be the phrase of the hour. Sheriff Joe announced the BC was a forgery thirteen months ago and at least one MSM outlet ran with it, so it can't be said the tale is being ignored.

WTC: "The Cold Case Posse continues to gather evidence. The current report, consisting of 300 pages and likely to balloon to 400, will soon be delivered to Congress."

That's all I've ever said; if you got 'em, show 'em. Once the delivery to Congress is announced, get back to me. I'll still be here.

steve said...

The bottom line here Christine is suddenly the defenders of Mr. Obama admit Obama's birth certificate which he presented to the American people was indeed forged. But it was forged by the "birthers".
This is way to good to pass up. I'll probably say something about it this morning over at C & H.

Christinewjc said...

Read it and replied to you there Steve!

GMpilot said...

Reed Hayes was hired by Mike Zullo after 212 experts turned down his requests to opine on the validity of the President’s long form birth certificate. Two hundred and twelve! Does Obama have so many people in on the conspiracy that he could intimidate and/or threaten that many experts? Because if that's not what happened, picking #213 must be a sign of desperation.
BTW, Hayes is not a 'forensic analyst'. He is a graphologist, or handwriting analyst. People in that profession usually don't have intimate acquaintance with Photoshop or its layers. Besides, whose handwriting would he analyze? If that certificates has a doctor's name on it, it's unlikely said doctor is still alive for a comparison to be made.

Hayes' two predecessors, Doug Vogt and Paul Irey, at least made it to Hawaii, but they got no closer to the BC than the state Department of Health's front door. Like them, Hayes has never seen nor handled the document—not even the officially-released copy, let alone the actual one.
Whatever happened to those other guys, anyway? Have they gone the way of all those other hatriots?

First, I made that declaration about the two forgeries over a year ago, based on what I saw here:

On August 2, 2009, Orly Taitz released and attached to court documents a purported Kenyan birth certificate which she said, if authenticated and shown to be genuine, would significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation...that Obama provide documentation that he is a natural-born citizen of the United States. Legal papers submitted describe the document as an "unauthenticated color photocopy of certified copy of registration of birth". The document was almost immediately revealed to be a forgery. It purports to have been issued by the "Republic of Kenya", when in fact, such a state did not yet exist at the time of Obama's birth as indicated on the document (Kenya was a British Colony until 1963). Subsequently, evidence was unearthed that the alleged Kenyan birth certificate was a modified version of a 1959 Australian birth certificate found on an online genealogy website. (emphasis mine)

and here.

Either these fake BCs were produced by the birfers themselves, OR they were faked by others and provided to birfers, who embraced them as genuine. Either the birfers were liars, or they got punked. It appears to be both.
As for this new alleged birfer holy grail, here is a whole bunch of them, one of which (#2) showed up on a website dated this past June. Even Jerome Corsi concludes that that one's bullsh. I don't know (or care) what he thinks of the others.
I know you've been absent for a while, steve, but try to keep up.

So what'll it be next, hostess? The Social Security card numbers game? The secret Muslim decoder ring?
I'll be here waiting.

GMpilot said...

CJW: ”Oh...one last thing regarding your "prayers" comment. It's all involved with God's timetable...not ours.”

But you always say that when things don't go your way, Christine!
For two whole seasons in 2008 and 2012 you were full of prayers that Gawd would remove Obummer/Zero/ The Islamo-Fascist traitor/whatever. I'm sure you prayed. I'm sure you believed the promise of John 14:14, and I'm sure you prayed with a sincere and earnest heart.
Didn't work, though.

So if 'God's timetable' has determined that Obama not be removed from office until 20 January 2017 (which is when he'd leave anyway), will that be quick enough for you? 'Cause you sure don't behave as though it is.

Anonymous said...

And I doubt that too many people care what you think as well Mr. Pilot.
Oh, is "African" a race of people?

steve said...

The previous "anonymous" comment was mine Christine. I'm still waiting for a "yes" or "no" answer from Mr. Pilot as to whether "African" is a race of people. And not some lame-ass, off-the-wall history lesson.
As to "trying to keep up" with Mr. Pilot, I can in my sleep.
His rationale is not just infantile but demonstrative of his lack ability to stay on topic. His attempt to 'dazzle' with faux history lessons is laughable at best.

Christinewjc said...

Thanks Steve - good question! I wonder if you will get an answer.